What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting

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Many rural folks like us barely have cell signal. Just enough for calls and texts. If I attach a picture to a text message, it takes 5 minutes to go & occasionally not at all. Once in a while the internet icon flickers, but rarely. Can't pull up a web page on my phone (Verizon). We just built the house.

Question for you all much more knowledgeable than I. Without a phone or cable line of any kind, can I even get internet through satellite services? Don't I need a line to upload, even a mouse click?
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #32  
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Many rural folks like us barely have cell signal. Just enough for calls and texts. If I attach a picture to a text message, it takes 5 minutes to go & occasionally not at all. Once in a while the internet icon flickers, but rarely. Can't pull up a web page on my phone (Verizon). We just built the house.

Question for you all much more knowledgeable than I. Without a phone or cable line of any kind, can I even get internet through satellite services? Don't I need a line to upload, even a mouse click?

You do not need a phone or cable to get internet through satellite services.
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #33  
Do you have decent cell service out there? We had the same kinds of DSL issues. We get decent AT&T Signal. Went with Ubifi and got a cell based internet plan with unlimited GB. We get faster service than the DSL. Not much but it is much more reliable. in the spring when it is warmer out I will experiment with an outdoor directional antenna to boost the reception and hopefully the speed.

Unfortunately the cell signal, currently, is only 2 bars for 4G service. I'm also running tracfone so data limits would probably be an issue for streaming. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #34  
Cable and TV companies did themselves in years ago. They should've, could've, didn't, add a streaming port. They kept trying to keep status quo and the cable guys love their monopoly. We all know that sooner than later it will be back how it was, a few companies controlling all media, streaming is just another word for controlling. Mergers and sales and mergers...oh my. As for internet, lets hope Elon means it about cheap, fast, internet for everyone, EVERYWHERE.
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #35  
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Question for you all much more knowledgeable than I. Without a phone or cable line of any kind, can I even get internet through satellite services? Don't I need a line to upload, even a mouse click?

There are still a couple of satellite internet providers. They're not inexpensive, have monthly bandwidth caps and they generally require 'professional' installation. Key factor is that you need a clear view of the southern sky with few if any trees. Search 'satellite ISP' and you'll find them.
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #36  
Thanks guys, I'll check out satellite options. It might be my only choice. The nearest cable is 1,700 feet from me and they may charge me for a new run, like the power company did. :faint:
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #37  
...When talking to them about returning their equipment, he noted my internet service is 300mpbs (what I thought was way more than enough). He said that level is now standard 400 mpbs and they no longer offer 300. Great, I'm getting a free upgrade I thought. NOPE! the 400mpbs costs $10 more. I could go down to 200mpbs for same price as I currently pay. So ultimately, unbundling and canceling phone service, not renting their equipment would leave me with less and slower internet and cost exactly the same! ...[/I]

Do you even need 200 mbps much less 400 service? I really doubt it. One of my jobs is in, as they say now a days, IT. My hardwired access is 100 MBps which is 800 mbps. There is faster wireless but it bogs down as usage goes up in the day so that the hardwired connection, even though it is slower, is faster. :D The only time I NEED those fast speeds is when transferring gigabytes worth of data.

At home we have been living with 1.5 mbps DSL for years and it has been workable. I can even work from home with that speed but I sure do not do file transfers. :laughing: We are now trying Ubitfi and my best data is that at our house we are seeing 8 mpbs. We would be happy if CenturyLink would provide us with 6 or 10 mpbs but they will not do so. We would be dancing in the streets with 200 mpbs service. :cool2::dance1::laughing::laughing::laughing: Well, no we would not, because for the most part, nobody in the house would notice the faster speeds but me when I did large file transfers. :D

Later,
Dan
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #38  
Not hardly. They don't have to provide end-user equipment, service, or support for every cancelled account. The people that stick with the increasing costs of the plans covers the cost of losing customers that don't. It's just that simple. The fewer customers they have, the fewer service people they have to employ. Since the infrastructure is already there, 10 customers paying $100 is better than 10,000 customers paying $1.

Not sure I agree. In most areas, like it or not the cable company is the best/fastest ISP. Just because someone may discontinue tv or landline service doesn't mean they're not using the cable company's internet. Still just as many miles of cable/fiber to maintain whether 9 or 90% of the customers get their tv from them, same amount of equipment in their data center to maintain as well. There may be less equipment rental fees (ie-cable boxes) coming in, but they don't need to stock as many so it's a wash. Staff reductions and other cost savings will be minimal.

The only thing that might (key word, might) be cheaper is affiliate fees the cable company pays content providers. I believe some bill by the number of subscribers, sports channels like ESPN are, or at least were notorious for this.

I think a lot of us are more rural than other's when some can get 300 mbs, those are fiber speeds and no one put's fiber to home in rural areas. Not around these parts anyway. And I install fiber for a living.

What I thought was odd, was in 2012 when (then) Time-Warner came thru my neighborhood they ran fiber along the roads, but distributed it over copper. I don't know the size of each individual node or why they did it that way. The fiber-to-cable converter is only a couple poles down the road from me.

Phone company ran fiber here right around the same time, and did the same thing. Yeah, it's not as far to the CO for DSL, but it's still DSL over copper to customers. I don't know of anyone who signed up for DSL...introductory rate was ~$10/mo cheaper, but only 10% of the speed. Also, at one time the telco wouldn't install residential DSL unless you had their phone service too, which was (is?) much more expensive than thru the cable company.

Question for you all much more knowledgeable than I. Without a phone or cable line of any kind, can I even get internet through satellite services? Don't I need a line to upload, even a mouse click?

Once upon a time you did, but those days have been gone for 20 years or so. Early satellite internet was one way, down. Upload was via the phone line at dial-up speeds.

I had Wildblue when I first moved here 15 years ago, and it was 2-way then. Fastest I ever got was ~250k (K, not meg), and every time it rained or snowed we lost signal. It was either that or dial up. $50+/mo. with data caps (which we never even came close to). Just about the time they upgraded their equipment and changed their name to Excede we got cable. Good thing...it would have required new equipment and a new 2 year contract. :thumbdown:

I grumble at the price of cable, but internet, tv and phone from Spectrum is still cheaper than what I paid for satellite internet and phone from the phone company.
 
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I guess we got lucky. County population is about 10K, mostly rural, sometimes only a few houses on a road. My section of road is about 2 miles and there are only 8 or 10 occupied houses. Some roads are more dense, many are less. Couple of years back our TelCo ran fiber down the state highways and installed DSLAMS about every two to three miles. From those, copper feeds the homes. People within a 1,000 feet of one of them can get 100M service. I'm a little over 6,000 feet and get 25M. People farther than 7,000 feet or so can only get 3M if anything at all.

From what I've been reading here and on other boards, some far more populous areas can't get close to 25M.

There is no way in **** people are getting 100 mbs through a DSLAM over copper. I don't care how close you are.
 
   / What Satellite & Cable Companies are doing as a Result of Cord Cutting #40  
Keep in mind though, that their costs are the same whether they have 10 subscribers or 10,000. I'm not saying that there isn't greed involved, but the money to operate all that infrastructure has to come from somewhere.



:eek:EEk!!!! Where do you live that 400 is "standard"??? The absolute highest tier available to me is 100, and that's way too pricey for my budget. We have 25 (up from 15 when they were still Time Warner). Still plenty for the two of us.
Like you, I have my own cable modem & router...got sick of paying $8/mo (I'm sure it's more now) and bought one for ~$60 at Walmart. No wifi, but don't really have any need for it. I still have the old cable modem, now it just handles the phone. Not getting charged for it, apparently there's a government regulation that prevents them from doing so for landline service. Can't understand why they're allowed to with tv or internet.

There are different "tiers" of internet speed package. The package I have - isn't the highest they offer, but up toward the top. Their standard/basic I'm sure is much lower. But what I had signed up for when we switched back to them a couple yrs ago was 300mpbs. I forget what was available or what they called them, but for simplicity say brass was 100, silver was 200, gold was 300, platinum was 400. I had gold. Now gold is 400. So I figured I would get bumped up to that. But nope, silver now costs what gold used to, so go to slower for same money, go to more for more money, but can't just keep what I had for same $....unless I change nothing. i.e. returning their equipment & not paying $10/month to rent it results in either downgrading to 200 or paying $10month more for 400. So either they give me less, don't let me return anything to reduce bill, or they give me speed in excess that I don't need and charge more for it - they lose no revenue no matter what.
 

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