Fence painting - paint and device

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TomIre

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First of all, I'm pretty sure my TBN friends are supposed to really want to help me paint my fence. Read it in a book somewhere!
What paint and what sprayer should I use? Repainting white with some new fence also white.
I've got a three board fence. Maybe 500 feet total. But with three boards that's 1500 feet and both sides it's 3000 feet of board.
Last time I used a roller and HD barn and fence paint. Lots of work and didn't last as long as I'd hoped.
Any suggestions?
 
   / Fence painting - paint and device #2  
Best way to get paint to stick is to use a brush.

If you want to do it fast, Graco makes some pretty good sprayers. They even have cordless sprayers that work similar to a cordless drill.

Moisture and debris are the biggest cause of failure on wood that's outdoors. Since the fence has been up for awhile, moisture shouldn't be an issue. Usually it's from Treated wood that hasn't had six months to dry out. Debris can be an issue. Especially when painting over old paint. Sanding, or wire brushing can make a huge difference. There are wire wheels that you can put in a cordless drill that do a good job.

Back around 2010 the Government got involved in how paint is made. This was even worse then when they told them what to use. The new process required by the Feds pretty much ruined most paint brands. I only buy Valspar and Sherwin Williams paints. You get what you pay for, so the most expensive is going to last the longest. Sadly, that's $85 a gallon the last time I priced it at Sherwin Williams. The best thing to do is to talk to the people at Sherwin Williams and buy what they recommend. Lowes isn't reliable for advice. Ace also sells Valspar and it's hit or miss what you get there for advice.
 
   / Fence painting - paint and device
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I'm thinking with the labor involved not to skimp on paint cost. The new wood is all PT but went up last summer so plenty of time to dry out. I'm pressure washing the entire fence this weekend. Like most painting prep time is tedious, not fun but has to be done.
 
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A lot of updates to paint in the last few years. They have paints that claim to have the primer in them. Otherwise I’d Prime first. Two coats total either way.

Home Depot paint has been rated very highly by Consumer Reports. I’d stick with that.

An airless sprayer is definitely the way to go. I’d rent one for the job. You can do 500’ in an hour or two. If it’s a nice day you can nearly start the second coat when you finish the first.

Here’s Consumer Reports current 3/19 top 5 exterior paints-

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My personal feeling is that paint with primer isn't particularly good at being either a paint or a primer. For outdoor paint, if there is any way you can get oil based primer and paint, it will far outperform latex.
 
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I used to work for a "real" professional painter. He added Casein to his outdoor paint; said it made it last a lot longer.

Use Outdoor Additive on Exterior Surfaces: Wood, Concrete

Milk Paint, i.e. casein - protein from milk, should be used only for new unpainted wood. They do not recommend it for painting over previously painted surfaces. For first time painting, it probably would be ideal. They also add Borax to the paint to help preservative and insect repellent.

I'm wondering if simply adding some Borax to other brands of paint would suffice.
 
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A lot of updates to paint in the last few years. They have paints that claim to have the primer in them. Otherwise I’d Prime first. Two coats total either way.

Home Depot paint has been rated very highly by Consumer Reports. I’d stick with that.

An airless sprayer is definitely the way to go. I’d rent one for the job. You can do 500’ in an hour or two. If it’s a nice day you can nearly start the second coat when you finish the first.

Here’s Consumer Reports current 3/19 top 5 exterior paints-

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Interesting. I used to love Behr paint and bought it almost exclusively. But then the government got involved and it became something that I struggled with to the point that I tell my clients that it's not a good choice. Some still want to use it and I adjust my bid to factor in the additional time it will take to do the job. Same as if they want to use Olympic or Walmart paint. With enough time, it will come out looking good, it just takes more time.

I really like Consumer Reports on things that I don't know anything about, like TV's. I bought me LG oled TV based on their reviews. After reading what they said, I went to the store and looked at as many TV's as I could find, which convinced me that the LG had the best picture out there. More money, but we really like that TV.

I used Behr a couple times last year on interior jobs. Mostly trim, and it's horrible. I just don't understand this review by Consumer Reports.

The paint with primer marketing campaign came out right after the government forced them to reformulate their paints. Lots of people fell for it, but all it accomplished is people buying more paint to do the job then if they had primed first, and then painted. Primer makes a huge difference in how much paint you have to apply to get an even finish. $20 Zinnsser compared to a $45 interior paint saves you $25 per gallon needed on paint.

A custom car painting buddy once told me that the best primer is the original paint. There is no reason to sand the paint down to the metal if the original paint is still good. Same thing applies to houses and fences. Where the paint is still good, just sand it smooth and leave it there. It's working!!!! Prime bare wood, bare sheetrock, and dark colors. Never buy Kilz, it's pure junk. For the same money, Zinnsser is night and day better. For exterior projects, and wood fences, I would go to Sherwin Williams and buy their specialty primer designed for outdoor wood. That's as good as it gets!!!
 
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A lot of updates to paint in the last few years. They have paints that claim to have the primer in them. Otherwise I壇 Prime first. Two coats total either way.

Home Depot paint has been rated very highly by Consumer Reports. I壇 stick with that.

An airless sprayer is definitely the way to go. I壇 rent one for the job. You can do 500 in an hour or two. If it痴 a nice day you can nearly start the second coat when you finish the first.

Here痴 Consumer Reports current 3/19 top 5 exterior paints-

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I'd use the airless sprayer to apply it but brush it in. A lot faster than dipping that brush or roller. And there's enough fence there to justify the eventual clean-up of the sprayer which I find to be a real PITA.
 
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sherwin williams makes good paint, i also hate behr. I think people like it because its like spreading frosting and they don't care about the final product that much, just that whatever they are painting is the color they chose.

on the new stuff i would use a solid stain. can you pressure wash the whole thing and then paint/stain? the secret to long lasting outdoor paint is the a clean and stable surface.
 

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