Comparison/ Validation

[nards444]

New to the forum have done lots of looking but havent quite found what I wanted and maybe looking for some validation on my thought process. Looking for a compact tractor. I own a 4acres of mainly flat grass. I plan on keeping the zero turn for mowing as I think its still more efficient, and financially to get a few grand out of it to spend another couple grand to do the same job doesnt makes sense. With that said I plan on snow blowing, land scaping, and just general utility work where a bucket may come in handy. Future projects that I forsee is small garden, post holes, and minor brush hogging.

With that in mind a small 19-22 hp model probably does work for my needs now, but I dont think leaves much room for growth and then when you factor in cost of getting a 25/26ish Hp tractor just makes sense to go bigger.

Now for the quotes all of my quotes is without tax and included cab, front blower, HST, loader and R4 tires

Kubota 2650- 32k dealer 5 mins away. The 2650 has a factory cab and AC,

Kioti 2510- 26k, factory cab added at dealer but no AC dealer 5 mins away

JD 2025- 28.5k Factory cab no AC, dealer 20 mins away

TYM T254 cab with no AC, dealer 10mins small out of garage type but from guys I know is very good, if not brick and mortar dealer 1.5 hours away

Mehindra- Got a quote but TBH they are a TYM but charge orange and green prices, so I am not considering those,

Considering I am not mowing I dont see paying the Kubota price for AC on a 26hp tractor as good as it may be. TYM is obviously the lowest price spec wise they seem to match anything else, Just felt cab quality was not as nice, but for a 6-12k savings and for what I am using it seems a strong possibility.

Now here is where the water get muddy. Kind of like the idea of factory cab, nicer lines and its built for it. Also considering cost of these, it almost is a no brainer. Same additions as above in terms of options

TYM 474- 30k- Factory cab ac and heat

TYM 394- Need quote but probably around 28k factory cab and heat

LS-XR3135- 29k dealer is 1.5hours away- factory cab ac and heat

Kiotio 3510- 32k ac and heat

Now i know as you add cabs and implements it can really skew comparisons, if I went no cab, it would probably change my thought process up. My question is there a better way to get a front snow blower, obviously have to order the tractor with a PTO, but is there cheaper blowers and what would I have to look for in a used one.

My thought process is as follow If I want the cheapest tractor that probably fits my needs and some future needs the TYM 254 is the way to go. Looking more for brand and support either the kioti or the JD.Kioti is a factory cab the JD is not. The big but here is if I were to buy the JD or the Kioti in the 26hp family, why not get the TYM 474 or 394 or consider the LS.

the 35hp JD and Kubotas are just ridiculous priced, mid to upper 30s so not even a consideration.

 

[fried1765]

New to the forum have done lots of looking but havent quite found what I wanted and maybe looking for some validation on my thought process. Looking for a compact tractor. I own a 4acres of mainly flat grass. I plan on keeping the zero turn for mowing as I think its still more efficient, and financially to get a few grand out of it to spend another couple grand to do the same job doesnt makes sense. With that said I plan on snow blowing, land scaping, and just general utility work where a bucket may come in handy. Future projects that I forsee is small garden, post holes, and minor brush hogging.

With that in mind a small 19-22 hp model probably does work for my needs now, but I dont think leaves much room for growth and then when you factor in cost of getting a 25/26ish Hp tractor just makes sense to go bigger.

Now for the quotes all of my quotes is without tax and included cab, front blower, HST, and R4 tires

Kubota 2650- 32k dealer 5 mins away. The 2650 has a factory cab and AC,

Kioti 2510- 26k, factory cab added at dealer but no AC dealer 5 mins away

JD 2025- 28.5k Factory cab no AC, dealer 20 mins away

TYM T254 cab with no AC, dealer 10mins small out of garage type but from guys I know is very good, if not brick and mortar dealer 1.5 hours away

Mehindra- Got a quote but TBH they are a TYM but charge orange and green prices, so I am not considering those,

Considering I am not mowing I dont see paying the Kubota price for AC on a 26hp tractor as good as it may be. TYM is obviously the lowest price spec wise they seem to match anything else, Just felt cab quality was not as nice, but for a 6-12k savings and for what I am using it seems a strong possibility.

Now here is where the water get muddy. Kind of like the idea of factory cab, nicer lines and its built for it. Also considering cost of these, it almost is a no brainer. Same additions as above in terms of options

TYM 474- 30k- Factory cab ac and heat

TYM 394- Need quote but probably around 28k factory cab and heat

LS-XR3135- 29k dealer is 1.5hours away- factory cab ac and heat

Kiotio 3510- 32k ac and heat

Now i know as you add cabs and implements it can really skew comparisons, if I went no cab, it would probably change my thought process up. My question is there a better way to get a front snow blower, obviously have to order the tractor with a PTO, but is there cheaper blowers and what would I have to look for in a used one.

My thought process is as follow If I want the cheapest tractor that probably fits my needs and some future needs the TYM 254 is the way to go. Looking more for brand and support either the kioti or the JD.Kioti is a factory cab the JD is not. The big but here is if I were to buy the JD or the Kioti, why not get the TYM 474 or 394 or no consider the LS.

Sine you have no location shown in your profile, it will be somewhat difficult to offer specific suggestions.

 

[nards444]

Sine you have no location shown in your profile, it will be somewhat difficult to offer specific suggestions.

added location

 

[thekkfan]

32k + tax seems high for a cab 3510 Kioti. I was quoted $35,600 for a new NX5510HC with r4s loaded, 2nd rear remote and rear wiper added. Ended up with one just like it with 3rd function up front w/ 65hours for MUCH less.

 

[nards444]

32k + tax seems high for a cab 3510 Kioti. I was quoted $35,600 for a new NX5510HC with r4s loaded, 2nd rear remote and rear wiper added. Ended up with one just like it with 3rd function up front w/ 65hours for MUCH less.

I forgot to add loader. So that was a 3510 with loader, front blower, R4s and cab. Blower alone was 7k.

 

[thekkfan]

I forgot to add loader. So that was a 3510 with loader, front blower, R4s and cab. Blower alone was 7k.

No, the big diff was the blower. What I quoted was with loader kl6010, no blower. 7k wow. was that front hydraulic or rear pto??

 

[TractorNH]

New to the forum have done lots of looking but havent quite found what I wanted and maybe looking for some validation on my thought process. Looking for a compact tractor. I own a 4acres of mainly flat grass. I plan on keeping the zero turn for mowing as I think its still more efficient, and financially to get a few grand out of it to spend another couple grand to do the same job doesnt makes sense. With that said I plan on snow blowing, land scaping, and just general utility work where a bucket may come in handy. Future projects that I forsee is small garden, post holes, and minor brush hogging.

With that in mind a small 19-22 hp model probably does work for my needs now, but I dont think leaves much room for growth and then when you factor in cost of getting a 25/26ish Hp tractor just makes sense to go bigger.

Now for the quotes all of my quotes is without tax and included cab, front blower, HST, loader and R4 tires

Kubota 2650- 32k dealer 5 mins away. The 2650 has a factory cab and AC,

Kioti 2510- 26k, factory cab added at dealer but no AC dealer 5 mins away

JD 2025- 28.5k Factory cab no AC, dealer 20 mins away

TYM T254 cab with no AC, dealer 10mins small out of garage type but from guys I know is very good, if not brick and mortar dealer 1.5 hours away

Mehindra- Got a quote but TBH they are a TYM but charge orange and green prices, so I am not considering those,

Considering I am not mowing I dont see paying the Kubota price for AC on a 26hp tractor as good as it may be. TYM is obviously the lowest price spec wise they seem to match anything else, Just felt cab quality was not as nice, but for a 6-12k savings and for what I am using it seems a strong possibility.

Now here is where the water get muddy. Kind of like the idea of factory cab, nicer lines and its built for it. Also considering cost of these, it almost is a no brainer. Same additions as above in terms of options

TYM 474- 30k- Factory cab ac and heat

TYM 394- Need quote but probably around 28k factory cab and heat

LS-XR3135- 29k dealer is 1.5hours away- factory cab ac and heat

Kiotio 3510- 32k ac and heat

Now i know as you add cabs and implements it can really skew comparisons, if I went no cab, it would probably change my thought process up. My question is there a better way to get a front snow blower, obviously have to order the tractor with a PTO, but is there cheaper blowers and what would I have to look for in a used one.

My thought process is as follow If I want the cheapest tractor that probably fits my needs and some future needs the TYM 254 is the way to go. Looking more for brand and support either the kioti or the JD.Kioti is a factory cab the JD is not. The big but here is if I were to buy the JD or the Kioti in the 26hp family, why not get the TYM 474 or 394 or consider the LS.

the 35hp JD and Kubotas are just ridiculous priced, mid to upper 30s so not even a consideration.

I think you were too quick to knok Mahindra out of the mix. The tractors may be built by TYM but once you get above 25hp you have emissions systems and Mahindra doesn't have a DPF so no regens. Mahindra also has a bigger dealer network than TYM and even Kioti so getting service and parts should be easier as well.

 

[fried1765]

New to the forum have done lots of looking but havent quite found what I wanted and maybe looking for some validation on my thought process. Looking for a compact tractor. I own a 4acres of mainly flat grass. I plan on keeping the zero turn for mowing as I think its still more efficient, and financially to get a few grand out of it to spend another couple grand to do the same job doesnt makes sense. With that said I plan on snow blowing, land scaping, and just general utility work where a bucket may come in handy. Future projects that I forsee is small garden, post holes, and minor brush hogging.

With that in mind a small 19-22 hp model probably does work for my needs now, but I dont think leaves much room for growth and then when you factor in cost of getting a 25/26ish Hp tractor just makes sense to go bigger.

Now for the quotes all of my quotes is without tax and included cab, front blower, HST, loader and R4 tires

Kubota 2650- 32k dealer 5 mins away. The 2650 has a factory cab and AC,

Kioti 2510- 26k, factory cab added at dealer but no AC dealer 5 mins away

JD 2025- 28.5k Factory cab no AC, dealer 20 mins away

TYM T254 cab with no AC, dealer 10mins small out of garage type but from guys I know is very good, if not brick and mortar dealer 1.5 hours away

Mehindra- Got a quote but TBH they are a TYM but charge orange and green prices, so I am not considering those,

Considering I am not mowing I dont see paying the Kubota price for AC on a 26hp tractor as good as it may be. TYM is obviously the lowest price spec wise they seem to match anything else, Just felt cab quality was not as nice, but for a 6-12k savings and for what I am using it seems a strong possibility.

Now here is where the water get muddy. Kind of like the idea of factory cab, nicer lines and its built for it. Also considering cost of these, it almost is a no brainer. Same additions as above in terms of options

TYM 474- 30k- Factory cab ac and heat

TYM 394- Need quote but probably around 28k factory cab and heat

LS-XR3135- 29k dealer is 1.5hours away- factory cab ac and heat

Kiotio 3510- 32k ac and heat

Now i know as you add cabs and implements it can really skew comparisons, if I went no cab, it would probably change my thought process up. My question is there a better way to get a front snow blower, obviously have to order the tractor with a PTO, but is there cheaper blowers and what would I have to look for in a used one.

My thought process is as follow If I want the cheapest tractor that probably fits my needs and some future needs the TYM 254 is the way to go. Looking more for brand and support either the kioti or the JD.Kioti is a factory cab the JD is not. The big but here is if I were to buy the JD or the Kioti in the 26hp family, why not get the TYM 474 or 394 or consider the LS.

the 35hp JD and Kubotas are just ridiculous priced, mid to upper 30s so not even a consideration.

Have you considered looking for a used (pre emissions) Kubota?
They are seemingly quite expensive relative to new, but Kubotas are bullet proof machines,with high value retention, and dealers everywhere.
If you need financing though, this would not be an option, and the search for just the right used Kubota could take up to a year.

In a new tractor I would definitely agree that the TYM is likely the best bang for the buck.
That said: I would never buy a new tractor....WAY too much depreciation!

 

[nards444]

No, the big diff was the blower. What I quoted was with loader kl6010, no blower. 7k wow. was that front hydraulic or rear pto??

Mid PTO. Now JD and Kubota actually had reasonable front blower prices in 3800-4. Everybody else was 5-7

 

[nards444]

I think you were too quick to knok Mahindra out of the mix. The tractors may be built by TYM but once you get above 25hp you have emissions systems and Mahindra doesn't have a DPF so no regens. Mahindra also has a bigger dealer network than TYM and even Kioti so getting service and parts should be easier as well.

Mahindra is a good machine, but so is a TYM obviously. My only thought on the Mahindra, was right at the JD 2025 price, for same price I would probably get better service at the JD dealer. Also DPF, SCRs half dozen one half the other, really, still a filter that does some form of regen, so Im not sure Mahindra can get away with saying the machine never does anything to regen or what other term that might be used.

 

[nards444]

Have you considered looking for a used (pre emissions) Kubota?
They are seemingly quite expensive relative to new, but Kubotas are bullet proof machines,with high value retention, and dealers everywhere.
If you need financing though, this would not be an option, and the search for just the right used Kubota could take up to a year.

In a new tractor I would definitely agree that the TYM is likely the best bang for the buck.
That said: I would never buy a new tractor....WAY too much depreciation!

Ive looked at used machines, and will have some cash to put down and can always finance in my own way. My only problem with this so far has been the bulk of tractors in this family size do not have cabs, and very few combos had blowers of any kind. So while I could find some descent used ones between the 15-22k mark by the time i added a cab and blower it would have been the same price as new if not more. And frankly to be upfront 10-20 year old tractors with 1000hours on them just dont interest me at this point.

 

[MaineGuy1]

Ok, first you need to realize some of those tractors you mentioned do NOT come with a factory cab. If the dealer is putting it on it is not factory and is not as good as a cab. The noise is more, the fit isn't as good and many don't have AC. I'm not knocking them, they just don't match up to a factory cab. My second thought is if you want your front loader in the winter, get a 3pt snow blower.

 

[nards444]

Ok, first you need to realize some of those tractors you mentioned do NOT come with a factory cab. If the dealer is putting it on it is not factory and is not as good as a cab. The noise is more, the fit isn't as good and many don't have AC. I'm not knocking them, they just don't match up to a factory cab. My second thought is if you want your front loader in the winter, get a 3pt snow blower.

I realize that. the Kubota and Kiotis are factory cabs, the kioti just isnt put on at the factory, 2650 from what I told is factory installed and has both ac and heat as I mentioned, which is the only one in the first grouping that had AC. The JD and the TYM 254 are not factory cabs one way or the other and do not have AC. The Larger TYMs and the 3510s are definitely factory installed cabs as well as the LS model listed and carry AC and heat both.

Yeah kicked around the 3 point blower. TBH I dont want to back up to do the job, i ll pay the extra money for a forward mount, Plus either way I would get the Forward PTO which is 500 of the 5-7k anyways. And not using a blade or bucket as Im not dealing with snow banks and destroying my lawn creating snow banks.

What it really boils down to is I would like to spend between 20-25 period, max being 30. Just because I have a budget doesnt mean I have to spend the max amount either.

 

[MaineGuy1]

I realize that. the Kubota and Kiotis are factory cabs, the kioti just isnt put on at the factory, 2650 from what I told is factory installed and has both ac and heat as I mentioned, which is the only one in the first grouping that had AC. The JD and the TYM 254 are not factory cabs one way or the other and do not have AC. The Larger TYMs and the 3510s are definitely factory installed cabs as well as the LS model listed and carry AC and heat both.

Yeah kicked around the 3 point blower. TBH I dont want to back up to do the job, i ll pay the extra money for a forward mount, Plus either way I would get the Forward PTO which is 500 of the 5-7k anyways. And not using a blade or bucket as Im not dealing with snow banks and destroying my lawn creating snow banks.

What it really boils down to is I would like to spend between 20-25 period, max being 30. Just because I have a budget doesnt mean I have to spend the max amount either.

Ok, I misunderstood what you thought were factory cabs I also went back and forth with blowers and decided I want my bucket. I am going to get a 3pt inverted snow blower that has electric chute control so I don't have to spend the extra money on another Hydraulic remotes. The tractor I just purchase sits higher than the ones you are looking at so an inverted blower might not be as good for you. Here in Maine my tractor has no problem driving over 2ft of snow, so I think the inverted will work good for me.

I agree with having a budget, but I am notoriously bad about busting my budget by a few thousand to get what I want My wife has become used to this, lol.

 

[nards444]

Ok, I misunderstood what you thought were factory cabs I also went back and forth with blowers and decided I want my bucket. I am going to get a 3pt inverted snow blower that has electric chute control so I don't have to spend the extra money on another Hydraulic remotes. The tractor I just purchase sits higher than the ones you are looking at so an inverted blower might not be as good for you. Here in Maine my tractor has no problem driving over 2ft of snow, so I think the inverted will work good for me.

I agree with having a budget, but I am notoriously bad about busting my budget by a few thousand to get what I want My wife has become used to this, lol.

I got ya. really the 2520 and 2650 will probably handle all future needs for me. The conundrum comes at cost and if going to buy the Kubota and JD for the same price I can get others with more HP, factory everything, which by all accounts are good tractors. yeah I get the parts and service aspect as well.

Yeah I really try to budget, I got money but I have competing interest lol.

 

[MaineGuy1]

I got ya. really the 2520 and 2650 will probably handle all future needs for me. The conundrum comes at cost and if going to buy the Kubota and JD for the same price I can others with more HP, factory everything, which by all accounts are good tractors. yeah I get the parts and service aspect as well.

Yeah I really try to budget, I got money but I have competing interest lol.

Yes, I have a Kubota and love it but for this new tractor Kubota couldn't touch the MF for everything I got. The equivalent Kubota was about 5k more.

 

[nybirdman]

I will tell you one thing;you don't want a cab with out air conditioning.I turn mine on at 65 degrees.They are like a fish bowl.Go with the L2650 and a rear mount blower.Front blowers cost so much because of the required sub-frame and you have to remove the FEL to install;not a big thing but you need a solid spot(concrete) to do it.

 

[nards444]

I will tell you one thing;you don't want a cab with out air conditioning.I turn mine on at 65 degrees.They are like a fish bowl.Go with the L2650 and a rear mount blower.Front blowers cost so much because of the required sub-frame and you have to remove the FEL to install;not a big thing but you need a solid spot(concrete) to do it.

I dont see a L2650 I see a 2501 online with no cab so thats going to be after market with no AC and by the time the cab is added to the 2501 There really isnt going to be a cost savings.

Now did get another quote for the 2650 just now for 30k vs 32k.

 

[TractorNH]

Mahindra is a good machine, but so is a TYM obviously. My only thought on the Mahindra, was right at the JD 2025 price, for same price I would probably get better service at the JD dealer. Also DPF, SCRs half dozen one half the other, really, still a filter that does some form of regen, so Im not sure Mahindra can get away with saying the machine never does anything to regen or what other term that might be used.

Dealer support is the most important thing.

The Mahindra uses a DOC which is basically the same as a catalyitic converter on a gas engine. There is no regen and no exhaust fluid. I believe a couple other engine manufacturers are using it as well now. You might check to see if any of the TYM models use DOC now instead of DPF since TYM uses different engines based on model in some of their lineup.

 

[nards444]

Dealer support is the most important thing.

The Mahindra uses a DOC which is basically the same as a catalyitic converter on a gas engine. There is no regen and no exhaust fluid. I believe a couple other engine manufacturers are using it as well now. You might check to see if any of the TYM models use DOC now instead of DPF since TYM uses different engines based on model in some of their lineup.

Thanks I will take a look.