Back Hoe and possibly cab

[paulfun9]

No, but trailers are cheap, and you probably need one anyway if you have equipment or live on any sort of average.

The benefits of a small excavator rather than a backhoe outweigh the disadvantages. Removing a subframe and backhoe so one can use a box blade or pto driven equipment is a bigger job than putting a mini on the trailer.

You people must really not know how to hook up 3 point attachments and I also question the mounting and dismounting of the backhoe because all but the industrial TLB’s seem to be very easy. The backhoe on my Kioti is easy to connect and disconnect and takes me less than 3 min on or off! The hoe on my buddies JD is a bit of a pain but still takes only about 9 min including taking off the lower 3 point arms or putting them back on after removal.
When I look at putting the chains on anything for the trailer it’s actually more work just getting the chains and binders out of the box then it is hooking up the hoe!

 

[4570Man]

You people must really not know how to hook up 3 point attachments and I also question the mounting and dismounting of the backhoe because all but the industrial TLB’s seem to be very easy. The backhoe on my Kioti is easy to connect and disconnect and takes me less than 3 min on or off! The hoe on my buddies JD is a bit of a pain but still takes only about 9 min including taking off the lower 3 point arms or putting them back on after removal.
When I look at putting the chains on anything for the trailer it’s actually more work just getting the chains and binders out of the box then it is hooking up the hoe!

That’s what I thought. My Kubota backhoe was only a few minutes to swap. I’ve missed out on the hatred for 3 point attachments. With a good hitch that’s a couple minute job. Rolling my backhoe gear selector to 4th and cruising at 20 mph vs hooking a trailer to a truck and loading a mini is a laughable comparison. That’s assuming a loaded truck could even make it to where you’re going.

 

[grm61]

Thanks for the reply

I think I'm convinced now that a cab is the way to go. I think I'm going to go new and bigger, probably the NX5010 HST Cab. Turns out my ch3510 trade-in is much higher than I expected.

:thumbsup: Yea buddy! The factory cabs are awesome, buy the backhoe with the tractor save your self a lot of money!

 

[L47TLBwannabe]

An excavator sucks by itself. You値l hardly ever see an excavator working without a loader/skid steer or dump trucks usually both by its side. You need a second loader machine to complete with a backhoe. And they can稚 move very far by themselves. For most homeowners a backhoe would be a better tool. I値l run against a mini excavator any time doing a wide range of tasks with a backhoe any time. Your slightly more efficient digging can稚 make up for your severe handicap at anything else. Bringing a skid steer to the table brings double the price and more time getting it there. And comparing against a tractor backhoe is biased right off the start. A real TLB like a Kubota M59 is different animal than the tractor machine.

I operate excavators for a living I don't need a skid-steer to do my job, we don't even own a skid-steer at my work.

 

[4570Man]

Like moving material across a job site, transporting concrete when it’s too muddy for a truck, moving pallets, loading a truck when it’s too muddy to get within the boom reach, utilizing one of the hundreds of implements besides a bucket, or doing pretty much anything besides digging.

 

[L47TLBwannabe]

We do it all with the excavator I've poured 100 hundreds of cubic metres of concrete on sewer and water jobs for thrust blocks and even on some building sites because I can get in there and I have a long arm with lots of reach, brush mulching, clearing land, craning pipe, transformers, cable reels, clearing snow, pumping water, pulling out stuck equipment, craning trusses, building haul roads, and probably a pile of other things I can't think of at the moment.

 

[fried1765]

No, but trailers are cheap, and you probably need one anyway if you have equipment or live on any sort of average.

The benefits of a small excavator rather than a backhoe outweigh the disadvantages. Removing a subframe and backhoe so one can use a box blade or pto driven equipment is a bigger job than putting a mini on the trailer.

Where did you get the idea that a subframe must be removed to use "a box blade or PTO driven equipment"

 

[Diggin It]

^^ Yeah, I guess I kind of misread that, or overlooked it due to the Mini-Bias. To my limited knowledge, BH subframes only interfere with belly implements like MMMs and possibly some front mount implements that need their own frames like some snow blowers.

But that's a big part of why I selected the one I did, no sub-frame to have issues with.

 

[oosik]

When I bought my Kubota M6040 new in 2009 I looked into a BH. After serious consideration I decided NO. If I were to ever need a backhoe I would rent a mini excavator.

In my situation - that has been a wise decision. Ten years now and I still have not found a need for a BH or mini excavator.

Be certain that your need justifies the added costs involved. My M6040 is also open station.

The costs involved in the purchase of a BH will buy a whole lot of other implements that could be used a lot more often.

 

[finn1]

^^ Yeah, I guess I kind of misread that, or overlooked it due to the Mini-Bias. To my limited knowledge, BH subframes only interfere with belly implements like MMMs and possibly some front mount implements that need their own frames like some snow blowers.

But that's a big part of why I selected the one I did, no sub-frame to have issues with.

How do you reconcile the Kioti “no 3 point backhoe-subframe mounted backhoe only” policy?