Loader Brand new BX2380 Front End Loader Issue/Damage

JWR · May 30, 2019

oldballs said:
Well Guys, how about this dummy!View attachment 606942 View attachment 606943

After five years of install/remove the FEL, I screwed up bad. IIRC It was late and I was tired and forgot to put the stands down. Ended up denting the grill, scratching the side panels and damaging some hydraulic lines. IIRC I had to take the FEL apart to get the cylinders aligned.......IIRC.

Cheers,
Mike

Can you elaborate and say what IIRC is ?

4get gto · May 30, 2019

JWR said:
Can you elaborate and say what IIRC is ?

" If I Recall Correctly "

oldballs · May 30, 2019

As I get older, "IIRC" is used more often.....even the FEL installation/removal procedure.:laughing:

Diggin It · May 30, 2019

As I get older I have more and more trouble with recall, correct or not.

eubie5 · May 30, 2019

mike paulson said:
I think he's back guys, LMFAO!!

Bravo

airbiscuit · May 30, 2019

mike paulson said:
I think he's back guys, LMFAO!!

Huh? The OP has gone dark after just one month on TBN (June 2017).

robertm · May 30, 2019

dragoneggs said:
Maybe you wise guys can offer up a SCUT 101 class made available to all new owners as part of the purchase? Give the guy a break... like you all have not screwed up anything before.... right?

You are right, Dragon.

Moral of this story is, TAKE YOUR TIME. Double check BEFORE you pull the joystick. Many forget how unforgiving hydraulics can be. That power at idle can bent, twist, wrack, etc. before you know it. With that comes big $ repairs.
Note to self and others. Don’t keep pushing it. Don’t get mad. These things should come off and go on easy. If they don’t, something isn’t right. Tach the machine down to slow the process and allow more time to forgive mistakes.
Based upon the OP’s photos, he was at full throttle or just kept pushing it. That bent loader stanchion and mounting bracket 30-degrees out from the tractor took high hydraulic pressure, or time to bend.

jsteinhauer · May 31, 2019

These things go on and off easy, and you can do it few times in a row in the spring, until you're sure it's in your brain. But you put on your snowblower in October and leave it there through April, you have to learn it all over again. Someone made a point early in the thread about there needing to be one extra step in the mounting procedure. That would have saved me the trouble. I guess I just have a lower threshold for realizing something's not right, and the dismount procedure was not going to work. I figured someone else probably had the same experience and hoped for a Youtube solution. That did not exist, but the OP's pictures convinced me to figure out a different way to remove the FEL. His post has value, even if he did not return. And you just need a few tools that most guys who decide to buy a front end loading tractor should already have in their garages...and some time to think about it before proceeding.

dougtrr2 · May 31, 2019

I have problems with the loader on my BX24 from time to time. The problem is when they poured my garage floor they made a pretty large diameter slope to the drain. So I can always get if off, but sometimes getting it back on is a challenge due to the different angles. So sometimes only one side gets hooked and before I realize it the cylinders are out of sync. At that point I just extend both cylinders to get them synced. Then I can get them hooked in the brackets. Once they are hooked I can just retract them and life is good. Mainly just watch what is happening and stop before things get ugly.

Doug in SW IA

sixdogs · May 31, 2019

I had a similar issue helping my neighbor with her brand new B2650. I Have done loaders for decades but in removing the loader on a gravel barn surface, I had to stop several times because I thought the loader was coming off crooked. The parking stands seemed flimsy and seemed to be flexing? Not sure what it was but it took me 15 minutes for a two minute job. When I put it back on the right loader arm and bracket was awkward to engage. It didn't instinctively go together as I had expected and took me maybe 20 minutes to make sure everything was OK. Maybe it was me but I have done lots of Kubota loaders.

Note that you have to be very careful when you move in to put a loader on and must line it up 100% or back up and line up again. That's a huge part of loader installation. Maybe the newer BX's and maybe B's need a little more TLC when you put things back together? The second time I R and R'd the loader it was two minutes and more normal.

dalola · May 31, 2019

I've found the key is having the ground where the tractor is sitting & the ground where the detached FEL will sit, be on the same lateral (side to side) angle. Irregularities fore & aft are not so hard to deal with, but if the tractor is tilting left, and the FEL is tilting right, much trickier getting it all lined back up.

So I would suggest the *location* of where you do your R&R is the key consideration. Find a spot where 20-30' of ground is in snyc.

robertm · May 31, 2019

Eh. Just weld that sucker on and never take it off.

oldballs · May 31, 2019

robertm said:
Eh. Just weld that sucker on and never take it off.

I just bought a second tractor and leave one with the FEL installed and the other without the FEL installed. As one politician said some time ago, there is no problem that enough money can't fix.

Cheers,
Mike

mike paulson · Jun 1, 2019

I'd burn about 40pcs of 7014 rod on that sucker, and be done with it

eubie5 · Mar 26, 2023

i know this is an old thread, but wished op had come back. would like to know how ktac handled the situation.
had to go back and look at his pics again,
damn, that was a mess.

dodge man · Mar 26, 2023

I looked at the pics again too. That wasn’t a mess, it was a hot mess.

oosik · Mar 26, 2023

I've never had a reason to remove the FEL on my M6040. AND - I never will. 95% of the time it has the grapple on it - 5% is with the bucket.

5030 · Mar 26, 2023

Sometime try to remove and re-install the FEL on an M9. The clearance between the hood and the loader arms is really tight and Kubota made the hoses way to short too and it the loader isn't sitting level, well it gets worse real fast and no couple of burly guys will move the loader anyway. very heavy
Why they stay on all the time. I just pop off the bucket or whatever I have on the front.

Don't need the hassle or the damage and I'm not a newbie either, just use my head once in a while.

sixdogs · Mar 30, 2023

eubie5 said:
i know this is an old thread, but wished op had come back. would like to know how ktac handled the situation.
had to go back and look at his pics again,
damn, that was a mess.

It would be nice to know how this turned out as well. Probably not great but that's part of life and stuff happens. I have damaged things over the years and learned the best option is to immediately pony up, buy new replacement things at whatever the cost and sell the old for whatever I can get. Let their unbridled optimism take over where mine left off.

I had a Kubota B7800 with belly mower and used to just lift the whole unit with much bigger tractor to change the blades. One day I caught the hood by maybe 1/64" of an inch with a loader bucket and managed to do $550 (year 2008) worth of damage. I was sick to my stomach until I called the dealer and ordered the parts. When I hung up with the parts in the works, I instantly felt better are rarely thought of my stupidity again.

bdhsfz6 · Mar 30, 2023

sixdogs said:
It would be nice to know how this turned out as well. Probably not great but that's part of life and stuff happens. I have damaged things over the years and learned the best option is to immediately pony up, buy new replacement things at whatever the cost and sell the old for whatever I can get. Let their unbridled optimism take over where mine left off.

I had a Kubota B7800 with belly mower and used to just lift the whole unit with much bigger tractor to change the blades. One day I caught the hood by maybe 1/64" of an inch with a loader bucket and managed to do $550 (year 2008) worth of damage. I was sick to my stomach until I called the dealer and ordered the parts. When I hung up with the parts in the works, I instantly felt better are rarely thought of my stupidity again.

A couple of years back, I did something similar.

I used to pick up my bicycle with the FEL to work on it.

It worked well until the day I got distracted and walked away with it up in the air. The FEL cylinders bled down and the weight bent parts of the bike. Not as expensive to fix as yours but I still felt stupid for a few days.