This forum is Great.  Thanks for the replies.  CTL?  Is that a loader with tracks?  I am on a very limited budget.  Probably no more than 8K.  I do not plan to use for it light landscaping.  I need to reshape a large slope and build a few retaining walls, put in some French drains, and a few other things most of my yard is crap so I’m not worried about tearing it up.  I am also looking at a 1980 bobcat 610 for 4200. 
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