Popular mythconceptions

[2LaneCruzer]

From what I understand it depends on the transmission. Some in the past had a pump in the tail section and could actually be roll started. If it does not, I don't think you can ever roll start it and make the flywheel move enough to spin the engine over. I think the old powerglide could be roll started.

Yeah, in the olden days, the rumor was you could do it, but you had to get it up to about 50 mph. Never tried it, never saw it done.

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[k0ua]

Yeah, in the olden days, the rumor was you could do it, but you had to get it up to about 50 mph. Never tried it, never saw it done.

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In any case, I think it is something in the past, not something you can do with modern cars as they just don't have a rear pump, and no amount of spinning of the tail stock will ever exert any spin on the torque converter and flywheel.

 

[the old grind]

Trannies with rear pump and that could be push-started faded in the fifties. Powerglide is a newer design and lacks the rear pump. Best to use with variable-vane torque converter. (AKA 'switch pitch', AKA 'original Hydra-Matic')

btw, first several years of P-G were 'iron case' (see early Corvette with straight six and king-pin front suspension borrowed from pickup truck lineup) Corvette did get ball joints with the '68 Stingray, and it was the muscle car era that took it from being affordable 'cheap and sporty' as they were in the fifties to a bang for buck 'Supercar' pretty much since.

These grill and taillights are characteristic of the first year '53 Corvette, seen here on a friend's '06 conversion this morning when we met for breakfast. Same color as mine, 26 yrs newer, and w/o 'coon tracks in 1/8" of dust & dirt. White truck in pic is mine, but Louie's car is a bit more ___ .... :thumbsup:



btw, I got my driver's license in '66. Choice of cars for $6,000 were Corvette, XKE, and this guy from a flyer I picked up at Graff Ford that year.

 

[Bird]

Yeah, in the olden days, the rumor was you could do it, but you had to get it up to about 50 mph. Never tried it, never saw it done.

Yep, I'm old enough to remember those days, too. And I guess you remember the joke about the guy asking his wife or girlfriend to push start him, but told her she had to get it up to 50 miles an hour. He looked in the rear view mirror and saw her go way down the road, turn around, and here she came at 50 mph.

 

[Jstpssng]

It appears that I was as mistaken with my previous comment as some are about batteries on concrete floors... the folks that I mentioned aren稚 wrong, just outdated,

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Yep, I'm old enough to remember those days, too. And I guess you remember the joke about the guy asking his wife or girlfriend to push start him, but told her she had to get it up to 50 miles an hour. He looked in the rear view mirror and saw her go way down the road, turn around, and here she came at 50 mph.

Yep, I heard the same story (or joke, what ever it was).

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Trannies with rear pump and that could be push-started faded in the fifties. Powerglide is a newer design and lacks the rear pump. Best to use with variable-vane torque converter. (AKA 'switch pitch', AKA 'original Hydra-Matic')

btw, first several years of P-G were 'iron case' (see early Corvette with straight six and king-pin front suspension borrowed from pickup truck lineup) Corvette did get ball joints with the '68 Stingray, and it was the muscle car era that took it from being affordable 'cheap and sporty' as they were in the fifties to a bang for buck 'Supercar' pretty much since.

These grill and taillights are characteristic of the first year '53 Corvette, seen here on a friend's '06 conversion this morning when we met for breakfast. Same color as mine, 26 yrs newer, and w/o 'coon tracks in 1/8" of dust & dirt. White truck in pic is mine, but Louie's car is a bit more ___ .... :thumbsup:

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btw, I got my driver's license in '66. Choice of cars for $6,000 were Corvette, XKE, and this guy from a flyer I picked up at Graff Ford that year.
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Man, I love that Corvette!

 

[turnkey4099]

Please explain the "mechanism" or black magic or scientific principle. PLEASE.

I have worked tirelessly most of my life to beat back the frontiers of ignorance, but I believe it is a losing battle. :confused3:

Firmly held beliefs beat facts any time

 

[the old grind]

2LC, I first saw the 'dual year' car only last year. Larry asked if it was a kit. It was like an AMG or the Cobra that Graff's only had the sheet for , came to dealer from builder, and Louie has had it since about new. I noticed hardly a flaw in the paint, maybe color wearing from some red seat-leather edges from years of getting in & out. That said, the car is in fine trim o'all today, paint on the truck maybe ok for a '12.

With only three of us there, one kept an eye out the window. Our waiter chuckled with us at the number of guys who whipped out their phones as they walked by the car. Took my pic going in, the tiny bubble chopper w/tail rotor barely seen in the pic took off just as we walked out. It should have been more in my pic vs my truck. ("Doh!")

When Louie was still our boss his red late '90s (C4 or C5?) was the mythconception car. He had a nitrous setup installed so discretely I'm sure a lot of guys he raced wouldn't see it under the hood. He hustled a lot of bucks with that car in two Summers before everybody knew his car, if not his secret. By the time I saw that in '01 or so, both he and the car were retired from street racing. His son has a very attractive red Viper.

a) "Of course I get more power and better mileage with the 'Turbo-Generator(TM) Ultra-Vortex PLATINUM Throttle Body Adapter' or I wouldn't have spent the $89 and shipping for it."

b) "I'll probably save that much in better gas mileage within a year, esp since I can get to work quicker now."

c) "It's almost like not having to drive as far to get there anymore."

d) "This thing is so cool, I should write a review."

e) "You .. hey everybody should get one."

Then the guy produces a burp that echoes out over the lake's cool evening waters, smashes a beer can on his forehead, and wonders why he doesn't get many dates.

f) "Heck, I'm a nice enough guy, what more do they want?"

 

[turnkey4099]

I am pretty sure that everyone but those hiding in mommys basement know that "2x6" is a nominal name for a piece of lumber.......

Apparently not here. My neighbor came up one day and asked me to "split these 1x4s in half to use for trim on my new shop". Okay, measured, trial cut, flip board and check, yep, exactly halved. 20 minutes later he was back complaing that they were too narrow. I explained lumber sizes to h im. This was a 40 yoa farm raised man. He was also the one who planted a whole row of saplings in his pasture. I warned him that his cows would eat them if he didn't fence them off. "Aw, ********" and yes they did the same day he planted them. His farm raising somehow was seriously lacking.