I'm hoping that Echo is good, I'm picking up a CS 590 tomorrow. I would have brought it home today, but wanted to give them a chance to look at my 545 and decide what (if any) parts are usable after rolling a tree onto it yesterday. 
Echo vs Husqvarna
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goeduck
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Gosh, I do not know. I did buy it down in Oregon back before the Mtronics were on the market if that dates it. My carbed MS441 starts the same and I had forgotten about this until now, but I bought it used for a prayer and it did not start easily. Since I did not have much into it, I took it to one of the local Stihl shops and the old fellow that repairs saws tuned it up for me. I am thinking it was a computerized tune (not sure) which I cannot duplicate. I still think it is fresh fuel, no ethanol, a properly tuned saw and a SHARP pull that starts a Stihl the way my mine start. Once a year or so I will flood a saw when I forget to take the choke off. Then I start it on the ground and it is the 10 to 13 pulls. Normally I start saws standing up.
goeduck
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I'm hoping that Echo is good, I'm picking up a CS 590 tomorrow. I would have brought it home today, but wanted to give them a chance to look at my 545 and decide what (if any) parts are usable after rolling a tree onto it yesterday.
You will not have a problem with an Echo. Congratulations on the saw.
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I'm hoping that Echo is good, I'm picking up a CS 590 tomorrow. I would have brought it home today, but wanted to give them a chance to look at my 545 and decide what (if any) parts are usable after rolling a tree onto it yesterday.
The Echo CS-590 is a solid choice. They do tend to come set to the lean side from the factory. Limiters on the adjustment screws can complicate correcting that, but the limiters are not difficult to defeat (though obvious evidence of tampering may void the warranty).
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I bought the CS501P. Nice size for general day to day cleanup and chores. So far no problems.
I will never understand why saws only need to be choked until that first burb! Then they run fine. Makes no sense to me.
I will never understand why saws only need to be choked until that first burb! Then they run fine. Makes no sense to me.
goeduck
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Yep, and then they flood. And then they need 10 to 13 pulls with the choke off to dry out and start. Gotta learn how to start them. I turn the choke off after a max of 2 sharp pulls, often 1.
If one starts with the choke on, get it turned off as soon as you can otheriapwise it will die. The chokes (on my Stihls anyway) are not like on a regular gas engine (as on a Honda GX) which can run for a while choked.
I think the choke mostly shuts the air supply off. Usually the primer bulb helps put fresh fuel in carb. My old 2013 550xp would flood on one pull when stored vertical with full tank for on week, talk about a hard starting aggravating saw, so what do I do, go buy another one, lucky this new 550xp starts better.
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That's good to hear. My 545 was the meanest starting/running saw that I've ever owned, and while I could have used the money for other things it didn't break my heart at all when that log rolled onto it. Hopefully my new Echo will be better. It was pretty bad when I owned a brand new Husky, but was using a Poulan because it ran better.
That's good to hear. My 545 was the meanest starting/running saw that I've ever owned, and while I could have used the money for other things it didn't break my heart at all when that log rolled onto it. Hopefully my new Echo will be better. It was pretty bad when I owned a brand new Husky, but was using a Poulan because it ran better.
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What many don't realize is that altitude plays an important role with small motors.
Get a professional tune up done by a reputable shop at sea level and go north to a 1000 ft elevation and you'll cuss that shop.
Also barometric pressure will play havoc with carb adjustments.
Frankly any saw owner needs a nice small screwdriver to 'touch up' the carburetor settings, same as he needs to always have the proper file to 'trim' the chain teeth every 2-3 tanks or so.
I, for one, always have a kit that includes a file, spark plug, plug wrench and slim screwdriver whenever I go chainsawing.
Often I also include a spare chain in case I hit a rock.
Get a professional tune up done by a reputable shop at sea level and go north to a 1000 ft elevation and you'll cuss that shop.
Also barometric pressure will play havoc with carb adjustments.
Frankly any saw owner needs a nice small screwdriver to 'touch up' the carburetor settings, same as he needs to always have the proper file to 'trim' the chain teeth every 2-3 tanks or so.
I, for one, always have a kit that includes a file, spark plug, plug wrench and slim screwdriver whenever I go chainsawing.
Often I also include a spare chain in case I hit a rock.
