Echo vs Husqvarna

[CobyRupert]

I started my Stihl MS261 cold today after it sat for a week. Almost got it in 2 pulls. Took 3, ashamed to say. Warm starts today were always 1 pull.

Yeah...well..after 2 or 3 initial pulls, my Husky 55 starts 1st PULL EVERY TIME!

- adapted from the old basketball player brag: “I took the shot, ball went off the backboard, hit the front of the rim, bounced to the back of the rim, then the front again, then the back again.....AND THEN NOTHING BUT NET!

 

[goeduck]

What many don't realize is that altitude plays an important role with small motors.
Get a professional tune up done by a reputable shop at sea level and go north to a 1000 ft elevation and you'll cuss that shop.
Also barometric pressure will play havoc with carb adjustments.

My MS 441 was tuned at about 20 feet above sea level and the elevation I cut at is anywhere between 5 feet and 40 feet. I hope that is close enough

 

[Oldpath05]

My MS 441 was tuned at about 20 feet above sea level and the elevation I cut at is anywhere between 5 feet and 40 feet. I hope that is close enough

Instead of starting at the top of a tree try cutting lower to the ground, see with a M-Tronic carb you wouldn't have 5' stumps.................

 

[goeduck]

Instead of starting at the top of a tree try cutting lower to the ground, see with a M-Tronic carb you wouldn't have 5' stumps.................

:laughing: That saw predates the Mtronic. I used to think I needed Mtronic but my cutting is all within about 35 foot of elevation difference on my properties and are tuned accordingly. I am not a shiny nickel person who has to have new all the time so carbed is just fine. The two properties I cut most on have a max elevation of 40 foot above sea level. No trees near the water are worth cutting.

 

[John_Mc]

What many don't realize is that altitude plays an important role with small motors.
Get a professional tune up done by a reputable shop at sea level and go north to a 1000 ft elevation and you'll cuss that shop.
Also barometric pressure will play havoc with carb adjustments.

Frankly any saw owner needs a nice small screwdriver to 'touch up' the carburetor settings, same as he needs to always have the proper file to 'trim' the chain teeth every 2-3 tanks or so.
I, for one, always have a kit that includes a file, spark plug, plug wrench and slim screwdriver whenever I go chainsawing.
Often I also include a spare chain in case I hit a rock.

Except that a standard small screwdriver won't fit most most recent model saws. Those that still have manually adjustable carbs all seem to have special screws that take odd-ball, specialty screwdrivers (splined, D, Double D, Pac-Man...). I guess that is supposed to keep us "regular folks" from adjusting the carb on our own. Fortunately, I have a set of those odd-ball screwdrivers.

 

[CobyRupert]

Except that a standard small screwdriver won't fit most most recent model saws. Those that still have manually adjustable carbs all seem to have special screws that take odd-ball, specialty screwdrivers (splined, D, Double D, Pac-Man...). I guess that is supposed to keep us "regular folks" from adjusting the carb on our own. Fortunately, I have a set of those odd-ball screwdrivers.

This infuriates me.
The EPA, in order to "save the environment", doesn't want me to adjust the carb so that 1 gallon of weed-trimmer gas I burn a year is too rich and pollutes.

Instead I should take my $125 weed trimmer to a "qualified service technician" who will charge me $150 to (maybe) fix it. Common sense says it better to throw the whole weed trimmer in the garbage and just buy another one. That is really "saving the environment"! :mur:

Couldn't find anybody who would sell those "special screwdrivers" in the U.S.A. I had to really search and buy my contraband from some foreign website. I think Alibabi (China "ebay") and wait 6 weeks. Probably was legit, but it sure felt shady. I felt like I had to look around to make sure the FEDs weren't going to jump out of the bushes every time I opened my mailbox.

 

[LittleBill21]

This infuriates me.
The EPA, in order to "save the environment", doesn't want me to adjust the carb so that 1 gallon of weed-trimmer gas I burn a year is too rich and pollutes.

Instead I should take my $125 weed trimmer to a "qualified service technician" who will charge me $150 to (maybe) fix it. Common sense says it better to throw the whole weed trimmer in the garbage and just buy another one. That is really "saving the environment"! :mur:

Couldn't find anybody who would sell those "special screwdrivers" in the U.S.A. I had to really search and buy my contraband from some foreign website. I think Alibabi (China "ebay") and wait 6 weeks. Probably was legit, but it sure felt shady. I felt like I had to look around to make sure the FEDs weren't going to jump out of the bushes every time I opened my mailbox.

lol 3 seconds i had mine off ebay.. weren't exactly hard to find. i ate a donut on the way to the mail box... i think the FEDS have better things to do

 

[CobyRupert]

lol 3 seconds i had mine off ebay.. weren't exactly hard to find. i ate a donut on the way to the mail box... i think the FEDS have better things to do

Ok, ok, I might of been a little dramatic. Lol.
Yes, it's been awhile, perhaps it wasn't a foreign website, just a foreign seller. (I hope I used Paypal) Many of the ones I find on Ebay today ship from Shanghi or ShenZen China and show up with chicken scratch writing all over the package.
I guess as long as it's not rhino horn in it (as far as they know ) it (might) be good with the Feds.

 

[LittleBill21]

fair enough

 

[Industrial Toys]

Back to my question. So choke on a saw, is a choke in the sense that it closes up the throat, but doesn't affect the motor running in the same way as a typical four stroke. I mean, it makes no allowance for any warm up. Obviously, not required to stay running.