Went down to Tazwel yesterday

[MossRoad]

The bucket on the PT180 (the bottom line basic tractor) will stay exactly where you set it with the bucket control and as you raise the arms with the hoist control, it can go from moderately rolled back when low to spilling over on the backside when at full height (the angle of the arms to bucket stays consistent). If you watch close on the other PT models with the Z center linkage, the bucket uncurls as you hoist up, somewhat keeping the same angle from low height to raised (angle from loader arms to bucket changes). Loaders like Trojan or Deere, the bucket will stay at the same angle as you hoist up, it is very beneficial.

That's not self-leveling. A self leveling bucket will keep it's orientation to the ground the same as you raise and lower the arms. PT's don't do that. You need either parallelogram linkage, or valves with control arms/sensors to do that.

 

[MossRoad]

Good example of "The Blades of Death", as MR likes to call them.

Scariest tool I own! :shocked:

 

[joshlee]

Skid steers make a big mess but the visibility is a lot better and theyæ±*e more precise than the loaders. My buddies loader is a ton lighter than a 95-2 Kubota skid steer. It lifts about the same but isn稚 nearly as compact. And the loader is close to useless for a grading tool and the CTL is a first class grading tool. The ground destruction is one of the biggest reasons I didn稚 buy one.

If I had a road construction company, excavating business, or a commercial farm I would definitely have a skid steer. You would almost need one in these three businesses to make a go of it. I don't think farming can be done anymore without a skid steer. I just own a home and it's in the middle of the family farm, so I don't do farm work, but there is allot of downed limbs to clean up, snow plowing, brush cutting, yard mowing, driveway maintainace, etc. So, it's work that is under the heavy duty skid steer work. I'm not sure how the PT-1445 or PT-1460 would compete against the 50hp skid steers?

 

[airbiscuit]

If I had a road construction company, excavating business, or a commercial farm I would definitely have a skid steer. You would almost need one in these three businesses to make a go of it. I don't think farming can be done anymore without a skid steer. I just own a home and it's in the middle of the family farm, so I don't do farm work, but there is allot of downed limbs to clean up, snow plowing, brush cutting, yard mowing, driveway maintainace, etc. So, it's work that is under the heavy duty skid steer work. I'm not sure how the PT-1445 or PT-1460 would compete against the 50hp skid steers?

Hook a chain between them and see what happens

 

[joshlee]

Haha! Maybe someone on here could tell us who has a PT-1445 or 1460.

 

[4570Man]

Haha! Maybe someone on here could tell us who has a PT-1445 or 1460.

The 1460 only lifts 8’ high and 2400 pounds. 8’ lift height would be a big turn off and 2400 pounds isn’t impressive for something of that size.

 

[joshlee]

That's not self-leveling. A self leveling bucket will keep it's orientation to the ground the same as you raise and lower the arms. PT's don't do that. You need either parallelogram linkage, or valves with control arms/sensors to do that.

That Z mechanism on the FEL is a type of fully mechanical self leveling system. It doesn't work 100%, but it does make a difference. It took me a while to figure it out, but watch the plate where your QA cylinder is when you raise and lower your FEL on the 425. One of those simple and effective designs.

 

[joshlee]

The 1460 only lifts 8’ high and 2400 pounds. 8’ lift height would be a big turn off and 2400 pounds isn’t impressive for something of that size.

Today I just measured my friends skid steer lifting height and it's around 10'. His is a Mustang 50hp that was made in the early 2000's. I'm not sure how much it lifts. Yeah, having that 2 extra feet of lift is a major bonus for the skid steer. It would be nice to try out one of those PT-1460's to just see what all they can do around the farm and how effective they would be. Changing the hydraulic filter ever 50 hours is a bummer too. It would be nice if PT would get the hydraulic filter change close to what other machines are. One thing though, PT does make it easy to change, and along with Rob's Ziplock bag idea, it works out okay.

 

[MossRoad]

Today I just measured my friends skid steer lifting height and it's around 10'. His is a Mustang 50hp that was made in the early 2000's. I'm not sure how much it lifts. Yeah, having that 2 extra feet of lift is a major bonus for the skid steer. It would be nice to try out one of those PT-1460's to just see what all they can do around the farm and how effective they would be. Changing the hydraulic filter ever 50 hours is a bummer too. It would be nice if PT would get the hydraulic filter change close to what other machines are. One thing though, PT does make it easy to change, and along with Rob's Ziplock bag idea, it works out okay.

Some please post some prices on new 50hp skid steers.

 

[joshlee]

A Mustang 1650R is about 38,000 dollars. The PT-1445 is 25,000. There are a couple businesses around here that have skid loaders and they only use them for plowing snow, loading and off loading things, and driveway work. If they new about one of these PT machines, they might be interested, I would think.