Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #61  
Smart money is saying it's going to be at least 5 years before there is another significant advancement in the technology that will make a difference...

The issue may be in the fact that other energy tech (fuel cell etc.) could surpass battery tech in a similar time frame...

More than one game in town.....

Want zero emissions ? Crack water, burn Hydrogen, H20 out the tailpipe........ Wash/Rinse/Repeat......

Rgds, D.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #62  
As long or short as you would like to leave it after your retrofit it with an electric motor out of electric Ford truck headed you way.

Zero Emissions in EV's is only referring to tail pipe emissions which are Zero because there is NO Tail Pipe. If the driver still is farting then the truck has green house emissions. :)

Electric vehicles are far from zero emissions. You’ve got emissions for mining for the battery’s. You’ve got emissions from electric generation. You’ve got emissions from building the car itself. So if the tailpipe on a Diesel engine is long enough that you can’t see it then it should be zero emissions too..
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #63  
EV and winter is not a big problem.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #64  
nuclear might be the way to go, if the fuel lasts 20 years, and has no emissions, why not?..
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #65  
nuclear might be the way to go, if the fuel lasts 20 years, and has no emissions, why not?..

Can we store the nuclear waste on your property?

I would actually okay with nuclear power IF we had a safe and designated nuclear repository. Alas, we do not.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #66  
Good thread, and I've learned a lot from it. I've long known that China is going to lead someday. Their human and natural resources dwarf ours and while their people are hungry, we are too accustomed to our standard of living. Their environmental standards are where we were 70 years ago... and we've been busy for 40+ years transferring our problems and factories overseas. Someday we may actually have a true "World Economy", yet I doubt that it will happen in my lifetime.

Getting back to the original topic; despite recent technological gains and political opinions there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. The population is still increasing at exponential rates, and that is what's driving our environmental problems.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #67  
Can we store the nuclear waste on your property?

I would actually okay with nuclear power IF we had a safe and designated nuclear repository. Alas, we do not.
Yucca Mountain is where high level nuclear waste is now stored. you would be shocked to learn that both uranium and plutonium are safe if not inhaled or ingested into the body. skin stops alpha particles from penetration. as does paper and air..
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #68  
From YuccaMountain.org:
"Today the Yucca Mountain site has been abandoned and nothing exists but a boarded up exploratory tunnel; there are no waste disposal tunnels, receiving and handling facilities, and the waste containers and transportation casks have yet to be developed. Moreover, there is no railroad to the site, and the cost to build a railroad through Nevada could exceed $3 billion. Today, the only thing that actually exists at Yucca Mountain is single 5 mile exploratory tunnel. "

From Wikipedia:
"In the meantime, most nuclear power plants in the United States have resorted to the indefinite on-site dry cask storage of waste in steel and concrete cask"
 
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EV and winter is not a big problem.

I read where someone built an electric plane and shipped it to the south pole for testing so clearly cold is doable. Not sure how high the plane is designed to fly but the higher the colder it gets.

One thing I never knew about EV's is how Tesla owns that market and seems to be pulling ahead more each month. Their lead in technology and software may rule for many years to come. The old line car companies seem to be only retrofitting ICE chassis with electric motors. On top of that Tesla is patenting the technology that may very well become the industry standards and the other guys will being paying royalties forever. Any company that do not do their batteries themselves do not have a chance at long term success if the 100+ year history of the automotive industry tells us anything.

The below opened my eyes on the EV trend and trend setters.

Tesla Model 3 Is 219's Best Selling Vehicle In Dutch Lands | CleanTechnica
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #70  
Nissan/Renault are big players in the EV field, VW/Audi are starting to move and has the e-Golf that sells very well, BMW has sold very good of its small EV, so Tesla will meet stiff competition. Here in Norway Tesla have had very big problems keeping up with service and repairs, and may be a bit more to desire for fit, finish and quality control.
 
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