Error code 008 NX4510

[coobie]

Engines like to run hot. Racing engines we'd try to lean the engines out as much as we could without getting lean misfiring on partial throttle and WOT because lean-running makes power. My tractor reads right in the middle all the time with a 185 degree T-stat as well. Bypass wise: originally I weakened the Stant 48808 bypass spring but the result was a warmer version of the original OEM T-stat: the tractor would cool itself down while transporting from one job to another in the cold. I then swapped out for an unmodified 48808 and hit gold: the tractor suddenly worked as advertised. My reward was Kioti voided my warranty citing:

1) I had worked on my own tractor (I'm a tech and they are over 100 miles away)
2) I had modified my tractor (I made and installed my own third function and swapped the T-stat tro get the engine operating iun its expected operational range)
3) I had abused my tractor without citing any examples when pressed to do so (I think they watched one of my first tractor videos where I tried out my Phrahana tooth Bar).

Long story short: Kioti's Importer can go fly a kite.

Stay in the fight Eric.LOL.Keep beating this dead horse.If you are not happy WHY not sell your tractor and move on to your next video of your next purchased tractor/company you will not like?

 

[JimR]

You and your dealer are both right.

I searched for "micron" in the service manual and got this:

- Oil filter
- Relief valve opening pressure: 4.5 ~ 5.4 kgf/cm2 (64 ~ 76 psi)
Filter paper fineness: Max.: 99 ｱ 5 microns,
Average: 75 ｱ 5 microns Filtered area: 1680 cm2
Bypass valve opening pressure (pressure difference between inner and outer side of filter paper):
1 ｱ 0.2 kgf/cm2

And elsewhere:

- Oil filter
Filter paper fineness: Max.: 99 ｱ 5 microns,
Average: 75 ｱ 5 microns Filtered area: 1680 cm2
Bypass valve opening pressure (pressure difference between inner and outer side of filter paper):
1 ｱ 0.2 kgf/cm2

Fuel filter

The fuel from fuel feed pump enters into the filter port through the (b) port and passes through the filter paper. Then, it is drained through the (c) port and supplied to the fuel injection pump. The filter paper collects the particles bigger than 90 microns (0.0034 in.) at 20 kPa (0.2 kgf/cm2, 3 psi).

and elsewhere (page 3-161)

As fuel from the fuel tank enters the fuel filter through its port (A), it flows through the filter element and then is supplied to the HP fuel pump through the port (B). The element in the pre-filter filters foreign materials over 10 microns in thickness at differential pressure of 10 kPa (0.1 kgf/cm2, 1.45 psi). This pre-filter is not only to filter water and foreign materials from fuel, but also to preheat fuel. As diesel fuel tends to freeze on a low temperature con- dition, making the engine hard to start, this pre-filter is equipped with the fuel heater (5) to avoid this situation.

Notice the difference in filtering of 10 microns at 1.45PSI and 90 microns at 3PSI.

and just for gins and giggles since I found it as well:

HYDRAULIC FILTER
(1) Hydraulic filter
page 11-14
The hydraulic filter (1) is installed on the suction line in front of the gear pump. Oil drawn into the filter passes from the outside to the inside of the filter element.
The filter element is a paper type which is not reusable nor washable.
Replacement interval: 50 hours after initial opera- tion, and then every 400 hours of operation
Filter element specifications (1 EA)
Filtering dimension 4,100 cm2 ｱ 10%
Number of folds 55 ｱ 5
Hardness Over 4.5 bar
Paper thickness 1mm or more
Pressure drop Below 10 mmH2O
Max. fineness 58 μm
Average fineness 92 ｱ 4 MICRON

Thanks Eric, I was told 90 microns at 3psi. The 10 microns would be 0.0003937.

 

[countrybumpkin]

He can leave the videos out too.

 

[coobie]

He can leave the videos out too.

I appreciate the videos of when I use my tractor like a bull dozer then complain when Kioti voids my warranty. DUH ???

 

[MinnesotaEric]

He can leave the videos out too.

You needn't click on the videos, but my shameless promotion of my YouTube videos have sold piles of Kioti tractors and pays for my property taxes, cell phone and electrical bills. Here is a video where Everything Attqachments is currently buying the bumper ad. Thanks, EA!

 

[coobie]

Very cool,if its free its for me type.Keep up the vids.You should be kissing Kiotis arse instead of bashing them if they are really paying your bills.I just noticed your land service sticker on the side of your FL loader.Does that make you a commercial company?

 

[countrybumpkin]

Careful, you’ll break your arm patting yourself on the back that hard.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Do you know if they are replacing all the injectors or just the one out of spec? I had mine replaced two years ago and tractor has been fine since.

 

[JimR]

Do you know if they are replacing all the injectors or just the one out of spec? I had mine replaced two years ago and tractor has been fine since.

I do not know what they are going to do. The dealer is extremely busy and who knows when they will fix mine. I did have a good laugh when I was told that one injector was firing 50% more fuel but that they didn't think that this was a problem to cause my DPF failures. My luck they will pull the injector apart and try to fix it. It should be replaced. There was mention that my Baldwin filter might not be good enough to filter the fuel properly. I spoke with Baldwin today. That filter that I am using has a better rating than the Kioti filter.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Wow, that’s a shame, sounds like they are trying to point fingers instead of working on a solution. If I remember right mine threw a code that reflected a injector issue and was smoking when first started in temps below about 70. One thing I was a bit aggravated about was the fact only the dealer can change the injectors because the ecm has to be reprogrammed with the identification number on the new injector.