Model Advice

[nova3930]

If your set on spending that money to upgrade...which for your stated purposes I don't think is necessary, but if I were to choose one of those upgrades I would to 4wd over just an added 3hp and 2wd. BUT that would depend on the weight increase from the two, but I don't think it's that much that you could not ballast up to and still have 4wd

Honestly the 2WD 2110 is still top of the list. I don't know that either upgrade gives me any additional capability I have a need for. My ground is flat and dry and I've tossed the plowing idea, so I don't think extra power, weight or traction does much for me. Running a tiller on open ground isn't the heaviest work there is.

ETA

Talking with a couple friends, several mentioned resale value of a 4wd vs a 2wd. My though was, it's a $5k tractor, regardless of drivetrain how much depreciation can you get from there if it's well maintained? I don't think much. A good ag tractor has a certain price floor if maintained in good working order.

Secondarily, Fredericks must get the things for nothing if they sell them for $5k and change after international transport and all the refurb work.

 

[clemsonfor]

Honestly the 2WD 2110 is still top of the list. I don't know that either upgrade gives me any additional capability I have a need for. My ground is flat and dry and I've tossed the plowing idea, so I don't think extra power, weight or traction does much for me. Running a tiller on open ground isn't the heaviest work there is.

ETA

Talking with a couple friends, several mentioned resale value of a 4wd vs a 2wd. My though was, it's a $5k tractor, regardless of drivetrain how much depreciation can you get from there if it's well maintained? I don't think much. A good ag tractor has a certain price floor if maintained in good working order.

Secondarily, Fredericks must get the things for nothing if they sell them for $5k and change after international transport and all the refurb work.

Most likely they don't have much in them yes, but you couldn't get one any cheaper cause of just what you said, and your not buying a container of them and whoever got you one would want to make money. But I see your just making a statement.


I wouldn't Todd the idea you can still use a single bottom plow with it. I still want to find a reasonable priced used on for my 2000 to play with as well. But from the description of your land a 2wd is all you need. I wouldn't so much worry about resale value, your target buyers are small for these as many people think you can't get parts or there a cheap tractor. Also think about your statement. If you paid $1300 today for the tractor it would only make sense it would be more valuable down the road. Do I think a final average sale value would be more than $1500 different between the same tractor in 2wd and 4wd... personally I don't.

Bottom line, your money get what you want. You don't have a bad option listed that your considering.

 

[nova3930]

This is tempting right now. A 2620 4wd with loader just popped up nearby for $8k.

 

[clemsonfor]

This is tempting right now. A 2620 4wd with loader just popped up nearby for $8k.

I'd look hard at that

 

[nova3930]

Most likely they don't have much in them yes, but you couldn't get one any cheaper cause of just what you said, and your not buying a container of them and whoever got you one would want to make money. But I see your just making a statement.

Yeah I'm just thinking about the business model of it, even when buying container loads. I assume they have a purchasing agent/s in Japan to find the things, all the admin costs for export/import, shipping and then you have to pay for all the refurb parts and labor, plus your general overhead. Just guessing at all that in my head the only way I can see to make it work is if you're getting the tractors for less than say $1000 or $1500. Mostly due to the labor costs inherent in the refurb.

 

[nova3930]

I'd look hard at that

yah, what caught my eye is that Fredricks has a 2620 2WD without loader listed for $7700.

 

[California]

... Fredericks must get the things for nothing if they sell them for $5k and change after international transport and all the refurb work.

That's pretty much the case. Japanese culture is unique. It's a national value to remain self sufficient in rice production. Tax law re depreciation subsidizes small farmers and the manufacturers of their equipment. After a tractor's tax depreciation in exhausted its economically rational for the farmer to replace it with new, with one consequence that old equipment is seldom in seen and probably is considered low-class, a symbol of embarrassing poverty, or something.

Buck, a dealer who posted here long ago, spoke of buying batches of low-hour Yanmars from salvage yards in Japan alongside buying agents from other countries, Iran etc who would just look down a row and declare as Buck said: "I'll take that row, let's get lunch". A 2210 would be years older than the recent models he saw, so of low price. I expect Fredricks' buyer sees similar.

That's not the same as the VN refurbs that arrive here after a first life in Japan then likely a second lifetime in VN, before a needed overhaul.

 

[CoyPatton]

You mention a tractor. I suggest you look hard and look quick. Yanmars in good shape at decent prices do not sit look. While they seem to not be very popular, there is enough recognization that they sell fairly quick.
The only concern I will express is the possible physical size as you mentioned wanting to pick up some wooded land. One of the reasons I have the YM2002D is its physical size as at that time I had lots if trees to move around on my property. Many times I had to do brake turns to get through in some areas.

 

[clemsonfor]

You mention a YM2620D near you with a loader for $8k near you. I suggest you look hard and look quick. Yanmars in good shape at decent prices do not sit look. While they seem to not be very popular, there is enough recognization that they sell fairly quick.
The only concern I will express about the 2610 is the possible physical size as you mentioned wanting to pick up some wooded land. One of the reasons I have the YM2002D is its physical size as at that time I had lots if trees to move around on my property. Many times I had to do brake turns to get through in some areas.

Also be careful posting a deal you want. Someone may see it, look your location up, but you have already given it away and come snipe your deal. It already happened to one guy this year. I'm not sure who's doing it, I promise you is none of us regulars posting here to your thread though.

I'd go look in the morning. I also if I was considering it seriously I would edit your post and remove anything other than maybe your looking at one. It's too easy to find stuff for sale with just minimal clues. We have seen it happen before.

 

[California]

Re sniping, yeah! My backhoe was simply 'backhoe', no pic, no price, no mention of 3-point, on CL for a week. I called, learned it was Kubota branded (popular) and discussed the price with the seller. Told him I would be up (50 miles) Monday with cash in $100 bills after I went to the bank.

He called me hours later. Said he had revised the ad to answer my questions and now he was flooded with replies. He said get up here early in the morning if you want it. I showed up with all the cash I could borrow from family and neighbors, about 2/3 of his price, and he said he would take my personal check for the rest. With his wife scowling at him (it had actually been her email listed where I first inquired so she saw everything). I'm sure she was harassing him 'You could have gotten more for that!!!' before and after my visit.

Likewise my Yanmars. The YM240 I called and he said he couldn't show it until after work. I asked if I could go over there alone, he said ok so I did then called saying I was interested. While I gave him a deposit that evening he got at least two phone inquiries. YM186D even stranger, just listed as 'tractor' with an ambiguous photo for $4500. I recognized it but didn't want to pay that much. A week later now $3500. I got over there immediately with a deposit and discovered it included a box blade and new loader forks, also the rare and valuable power steering. He said the price reduction started many calls, with me the first person to show up in person. The backhoe and the YM240 were just priced reasonably but this Yanmar should have gone for at least his $4500 to somebody if he had presented it in a better ad.

Lesson: jump instantly with a cash deposit if you like what you see. Or risk getting sniped.