Model Advice

[careyo63]

I gave Half the price than what there showing for the Del Morino . And that's the 48". The RS1400 I seen over the yrs. was only 200.00 more in perfect condition than the one I'm showing. No harm in asking if they have one. May not be able to get them anymore?. I see them all the time on CL. Cheap!! Fredricks sells the Tines for them and that's the only thing that wears out on it....

 

[California]

If you give up the idea of a turning plow then what Carey has will fit your needs. That 2210 will be similar and its Powershift is a huge advantage. For what you describe I don't see a reason to go wider and longer, that just makes turning in tight spaces more difficult.

All of these 20~30 hp Yanmars are designed, optimized, to push maximum hp to a relatively big rototiller. (and incidentally, are optimized for a big rotary mower). They don't have the native weight to give traction and pull a heavy ground engaging implement - plow etc. An old International or even an 8N are a lot heavier and were designed for that, it's a different 'personality'. You could ballast a Yanmar to get closer to that weight. But my experience with the yM240 (YM2000) was I could feel the weight slowing down uphill climbs in my orchard when I had my oversize rear tires fully loaded with water. I had to stop and shift a lot sooner. After I put the ROPS on it I was less concerned with a rollover so I reduced the water ballast, regaining noticeable performance.

A 54 inch Yanmar rototiller and a 5 ft rotary mower will work well on a 2210. I don't see a reason to pay more for a larger tractor, in the application you describe.

If you do decide on the larger 3-cylinder instead, those are smoother and quieter. If you test drive some alternatives at Fredricks you might decide that is an advantage worth paying more for. The 2000 and 2210 do make quite a racket - I call it the sound of raw power. ... and I prefer to use my YM186D instead when it will do the job equally well because I don't need hearing protection on that one.

 

[nova3930]

If you give up the idea of a turning plow then what Carey has will fit your needs. That 2210 will be similar and its Powershift is a huge advantage. For what you describe I don't see a reason to go wider and longer, that just makes turning in tight spaces more difficult.

All of these 20~30 hp Yanmars are designed, optimized, to push maximum hp to a relatively big rototiller. (and incidentally, are optimized for a big rotary mower). They don't have the native weight to give traction and pull a heavy ground engaging implement - plow etc. An old International or even an 8N are a lot heavier and were designed for that, it's a different 'personality'. You could ballast a Yanmar to get closer to that weight. But my experience with the yM240 (YM2000) was I could feel the weight slowing down uphill climbs in my orchard when I had my oversize rear tires fully loaded with water. I had to stop and shift a lot sooner. After I put the ROPS on it I was less concerned with a rollover so I reduced the water ballast, regaining noticeable performance.

A 54 inch Yanmar rototiller and a 5 ft rotary mower will work well on a 2210. I don't see a reason to pay more for a larger tractor, in the application you describe.

If you do decide on the larger 3-cylinder instead, those are smoother and quieter. If you test drive some alternatives at Fredricks you might decide that is an advantage worth paying more for. The 2000 and 2210 do make quite a racket - I call it the sound of raw power. ... and I prefer to use my YM186D instead when it will do the job equally well because I don't need hearing protection on that one.

Good info, thanks. I'll for sure do a test drive. Never pass up an opportunity to play with a toy

And I've seen plenty of older used ag tractors around here for about the same price range. Just saw a decent looking 1020 Deere with a 6 foot cutter for $5500. Not sure I want something that big though. For storage reasons if nothing else. Have a 24x40 poll barn now that's half filled with camper and another quarter with mower, atvs and a CNC lathe I'm going to refurb eventually.

The noise might be an issue. It doesn't bother me but I expect the wife may use it some as well and it could very well bother her.

 

[careyo63]

My 5' Fm. I run 2 gear PTO Since I use it pretty much Weekly during mowing season. 1800-1900 rpms Tops, so my noise is very low. Rear Discharge is by far the way go also. A lot less Hp. needed to use it. But I'm with you Nova3930 Noise doesn't bother me. I worked in the Printing and Graphics Ind. in a pressroom all my life pretty much since I was 17-18 yrs. old on Multi Mil. dollar printing machinery. The yanmar don't have anything on some of the pressrooms I worked in on 12Hr. shifts At least 1 Week a month. I was hurt yrs. ago And damaged one of my ear canals. Took them over 3yrs. to open and fix it. I had foam ear plugs I had to use while showering and that's what I used when mowing until they finished. Very easy to use and you could hardly tell they were in. Any Walmart Pharmacy has them.

 

[nova3930]

My 5' Fm. I run 2 gear PTO Since I use it pretty much Weekly during mowing season. 1800-1900 rpms Tops, so my noise is very low. Rear Discharge is by far the way go also. A lot less Hp. needed to use it. But I'm with you Nova3930 Noise doesn't bother me. I worked in the Printing and Graphics Ind. in a pressroom all my life pretty much since I was 17-18 yrs. old on Multi Mil. dollar printing machinery. The yanmar don't have anything on some of the pressrooms I worked in on 12Hr. shifts At least 1 Week a month. I was hurt yrs. ago And damaged one of my ear canals. Took them over 3yrs. to open and fix it. I had foam ear plugs I had to use while showering and that's what I used when mowing until they finished. Very easy to use and you could hardly tell they were in. Any Walmart Pharmacy has them.

I'm an avid rifle collector/shooter so I've got more earpro laying around than your average bear. I keep big packs of the foam plugs in addition to electronic muffs. Not planning on mowing with mine since I have the zero turn, well technically two zero turns since my wife's aunt brought hers when she moved in with us.

 

[careyo63]

We keep a Zero turn for my mother house about a 1/4 acre front yard. There great for confined spaces. If the grass is high your making multiple passes to get rid the row with being side Discharge. My brother keeps up with that I'm not going there. Beat me to death Literally!! I get him good when I cruise by him in the tallest grass making it look like he's sitting in a electric chair and they threw the switch. Only a couple yrs. old and paid like 6.G $ for it. He even laughs when I do it........

 

[nova3930]

We keep a Zero turn for my mother house about a 1/4 acre front yard. There great for confined spaces. If the grass is high your making multiple passes to get rid the row with being side Discharge. My brother keeps up with that I'm not going there. Beat me to death Literally!! I get him good when I cruise by him in the tallest grass making it look like he's sitting in a electric chair and they threw the switch. Only a couple yrs. old and paid like 6.G $ for it. He even laughs when I do it........

I maintain the area not under crop like lawn basically. Outside of exceptional circumstances it's never very tall. That and the Gravely 460 will absolutely fly. Mower will actually have more HP than the 2210 if I get it lol. I started out maintaining the place with a tractor and 6ft flail mower. I cut my mowing time almost in half switching to the 5ft zero turn. Now my nephew is living with us so I make him cut it once or twice a week for his room and board

 

[clemsonfor]

I maintain the area not under crop like lawn basically. Outside of exceptional circumstances it's never very tall. That and the Gravely 460 will absolutely fly. Mower will actually have more HP than the 2210 if I get it lol. I started out maintaining the place with a tractor and 6ft flail mower. I cut my mowing time almost in half switching to the 5ft zero turn. Now my nephew is living with us so I make him cut it once or twice a week for his room and board

But that tractor will bush hog or disk the same acres as that ZT mower useing half the fuel! And do so in stuff that would choke out the ZT or still leave stuff standing knee high if you were to try and cut it with ZT. And on the ZT you would be creeping around at 1mph to try and get it to cut in one pass.

 

[California]

... in stuff that would choke out the ZT

And mowing uphill, like this photo?

Nova here's an old thread (with photos) comparing mowing with Yanmar 18 hp that has Powershift, vs 24 hp MT. Same 4 ft rotary mower with both.

 

[nova3930]

But that tractor will bush hog or disk the same acres as that ZT mower useing half the fuel! And do so in stuff that would choke out the ZT or still leave stuff standing knee high if you were to try and cut it with ZT. And on the ZT you would be creeping around at 1mph to try and get it to cut in one pass.

I get you totally. The zt is a very specialized piece of equipment that does one thing really well, namely cut lawn type grass. The tractor can do more types of things and do heavier work.

I don't think you're getting my point though that I don't have any heavy grass like that and I'm not going to. The farmers spray the back 10 regularly as part of their operations and the front 6 is lawn grass. The added capability doesn't matter to me because I don't have that requirement. I just need to plant a garden