Model Advice

[bmaverick]

True about the RPM’s we will run at. 1st is on our Yanmars, we really do not have a 540 PTO rpm but speed 1 is close. But most brands even those USA models that only have a 540 PTO speed, we will find what we each consider the ‘sweet’ speed. But for starting out with a tractor, the best advice for that newbie is to set the rpm’s at the 540 setting however that is indicated for that model.

I have no idea what speed 1 is on my Yanmar YM2610. It shows 500 with the PTO selector for any of the 4 and what engine speed it runs at. Are the smaller Yanmars setup to just put it into a PTO number and then it just spins ???? I've not worked any Yanmar under the YM2500 to know otherwise. The YM3110 & YM3810 are very much like my YM2610 for RPMs and the PTO selector to get to the PTO speed.

 

[clemsonfor]

I have no idea what speed 1 is on my Yanmar YM2610. It shows 500 with the PTO selector for any of the 4 and what engine speed it runs at. Are the smaller Yanmars setup to just put it into a PTO number and then it just spins ???? I've not worked any Yanmar under the YM2500 to know otherwise. The YM3110 & YM3810 are very much like my YM2610 for RPMs and the PTO selector to get to the PTO speed.

I don't really understand the question but yes I just put my lever into one of the three PTO speeds via the gear shift lever. When I let out the clutch it spins. First is the normal 540 American speed. #2 ist like 720ish and third gear is like 1050 or something close. All these PTO speeds are at full operating speed which I think is 2400rpms in the tach. I have a YM2000.

 

[bmaverick]

I don't really understand the question but yes I just put my lever into one of the three PTO speeds via the gear shift lever. When I let out the clutch it spins. First is the normal 540 American speed. #2 ist like 720ish and third gear is like 1050 or something close. All these PTO speeds are at full operating speed which I think is 2400rpms in the tach. I have a YM2000.

Ah, so your Yanmar operates the PTO totally different than the larger Yanmars. now that makes sense. I was at first very confused when you stated PTO 1 only with nothing else explained.

Very interesting indeed. So, the later and bigger Yanmars have more perks then. I like it ! :thumbsup: Glad I didn't get a small model then.

 

[nova3930]

For the novice, to maybe clarify that a bit. 1 engine hour is 1 hour ran at PTO speed 1 at engine rpm痴 to obtain 540 PTO rpm痴. Now that is probably clear as muddy water.
That said, trying to keep math a bit simple, if 540 PTO is achieved at 2400 rpm痴. 1 hour of tractor work at 2400 rpms will move your hour meter 1 hour
Idling (fast idle) at 1200 rpms for 1 hour will add 0.5 hours to your hour meter (assuming all things are equal). So work your math based on your tractors rated rpm number and the rpms you run either do non-PTO work or by using a faster PTO gear and a reduced engine rpm.
I know clear as dirty water.

That's interesting they tie the Hobbs meter To rpm. All the equipment I've ever used it's been on or off with the engine. Makes sense to vary with rpm to get equivalent hours as engine component stresses and wear go up with the square of rpm.

 

[nova3930]

I would initially try the box blade with no additional ballast, as adding ballast for traction is always a pain to remove. It can be done, but anyone who has done so will agree it is a pain.
As you consider ballast, think about why you want ballast! If it is for traction, you will want it as close to the rear axle as possible (even on a 4wd model). There are trade offs with any type of ballast so research each type庸illed tires, wheel weights and on.
Many of us have made ballast for our 3ph due to the rear getting light using the FEL. In this mode a little weight on the 3ph may be more effective than filled tires. A big advantage to this is fairly easy removal. A big disadvantage is it is not usable if using an implement that might not be heavy enough.
Without a FEL and a heavy long rear implement, may require ballast in the front of the tractor葉ractor weights.
So trying not to make this a novel, you may have a need for several types of ballast based on what you are trying to do.

So i get saying no ballast to start, whatever I get, but that still leaves my question of whether the heavier unit is worth it. How much difference is 600lbs base weight gonna mean?

 

[California]

I have no idea what speed 1 is on my Yanmar YM2610. It shows 500 with the PTO selector for any of the 4 and what engine speed it runs at. Are the smaller Yanmars setup to just put it into a PTO number and then it just spins ???? I've not worked any Yanmar under the YM2500 to know otherwise. The YM3110 & YM3810 are very much like my YM2610 for RPMs and the PTO selector to get to the PTO speed.

Are you saying the tach is labelled for the various rpms needed to attain PTO 540 in the various pto gears?

Here's the YM2000/YM240 tach diagram. For US YM240 with two speed PTO, 2200 @ engine gives 540 or 1000 rpm at the PTO.

 

[clemsonfor]

So i get saying no ballast to start, whatever I get, but that still leaves my question of whether the heavier unit is worth it. How much difference is 600lbs base weight gonna mean?

On a 3000 pound tractor ( or whatever it weighs) 600 pounds is a lot.

 

[nova3930]

On a 3000 pound tractor ( or whatever it weighs) 600 pounds is a lot.

Data I can find,

2210 run aprox 2000lbs
2220 and 2420 run aprox 2600lbs

Now I have no idea how accurate that is.

 

[clemsonfor]

Data I can find,

2210 run aprox 2000lbs
2220 and 2420 run aprox 2600lbs

Now I have no idea how accurate that is.

I believe 2210 weighs that , my ym2000 weighs like 1800. I was thinking we were talking a bit larger tractors the 2610 comment muddied the waters for me. I knew the smaller ones were 2000 pounds.

 

[careyo63]

I'm showing. 2210-2wd. PS. 2083 lbs.
2220D-PS. 2635 lbs.
2420D-PS.2723
Ym2000-2wd. gear. 1664
This is off a old Yanmar Owners.com Info. and they match Tractor Data.com also..