I can't believe they did it (part deux)

   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #52  
I understand that they shouldn't have to mess around. It's like you owe the Gov $100.00 in taxes and they seize your bank account with ten grand, crippling your business. You are in default and have to suffer harsh consequences. But why don't they apply that rule across the board. Apply that level of harshness to all crimes. In my thinking, it's because, it's ALWAYS about the money!
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #53  
The Government doesn't own anything. The Government has no assets. The Government at all levels is a consolidation of it's residents. So we are the Government. The assets belong to us. The tax money belongs to us.

So somebody decides they aren't going to pay their share. What do you think we should do about it?
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #54  
The way I undertand it, here anyway, you don't own any land. The CROWN owns it all. Not sure how that applies to what is built on the land.
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #55  
I owe you $10. You live in NY. You come to my house to collect the $10. Is that all you would ask for??

We had an agreement. In that agreement it is made perfectly clear that my property is subject to foreclosure if I don't pay.

No Ambulance Chaser lawyer in the country is going to take on this case.

(This answer/question will probably backfire on me...but...in seriousness):

What's the signed agreement I have with the county that says they can take $299,991.05 if I don't pay $8.95?

....I hesitate to ask the above, as it problems gets into questions of "subject" vs. "citizens", etc....

"What should they (gov't) do?": Gov't sells the house at public auction. They take the $8.95 that is owed them (plus processing fees), they give the money that is not there's to homeless owner instead of stealing it. Simple.

(p.s.: Being from NY, and traveling all that way for my $10, there's going be some extra "process charges", but $300,000 of extra fees is a bit much don't you think?)
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #56  
The Government doesn't own anything. The Government has no assets. The Government at all levels is a consolidation of it's residents. So we are the Government. The assets belong to us. The tax money belongs to us.

So somebody decides they aren't going to pay their share. What do you think we should do about it?
I believe that's what this entire discussion has been about. I've already given my opinion, in my only other reply (#37) in this thread. in some of the cases cited in the article, notices were sent to non existent addresses because the house hadn't been finished yet. There is no reason cited for this, do it's hard to tell if the owners simply didn't have one on file, or the county simply made one up to suit their needs. At times it appears that the fox is guarding the henhouse.
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #57  
It isn't just guarding the henhouse. More and more and more, the FOX is making the rules, and the chickens don't have any say in the matter.
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #58  
(This answer/question will probably backfire on me...but...in seriousness):

What's the signed agreement I have with the county that says they can take $299,991.05 if I don't pay $8.95?

....I hesitate to ask the above, as it problems gets into questions of "subject" vs. "citizens", etc....

"What should they (gov't) do?": Gov't sells the house at public auction. They take the $8.95 that is owed them (plus processing fees), they give the money that is not there's to homeless owner instead of stealing it. Simple.

(p.s.: Being from NY, and traveling all that way for my $10, there's going be some extra "process charges", but $300,000 of extra fees is a bit much don't you think?)

Hard to put a price on the skin I'd lose when you showed up..... ;)

The agreement you have with the County, which is all of your neighbors, is that you will pay your taxes. You did not. Your neighbors will demand that you forfeit everything tied to that tax bill. Your neighbors paid their taxes. They'll expect absolutely nothing less from you and demand that you be severely penalized. If you are Absolutely Stupid enough to buck the system then you shouldn't be surprised when the system "bites back". :)
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #59  
I believe that's what this entire discussion has been about. I've already given my opinion, in my only other reply (#37) in this thread. in some of the cases cited in the article, notices were sent to non existent addresses because the house hadn't been finished yet. There is no reason cited for this, do it's hard to tell if the owners simply didn't have one on file, or the county simply made one up to suit their needs. At times it appears that the fox is guarding the henhouse.

In my little redneck country world it is my responsibility to make sure my taxable property is properly registered with a valid mailing address and contact information. I am only asking for trouble to not do that.

Last year at this time we were just starting our house build. At the end of December I visited the County Assessor's Office and reported my progress. She asked me specific questions in regards to the house's completion. The next day she came and took pics. The progress was recorded and a taxable amount assessed as of 1 January. If I had done nothing I would have put myself at risk such as the house owners did in your above reference. I did not want that. So I ensured there would be no problem. That's what you, my neighbor and fellow taxpayer expect me to do.
 
   / I can't believe they did it (part deux) #60  
It isn't just guarding the henhouse. More and more and more, the FOX is making the rules, and the chickens don't have any say in the matter.
You got it. That's the way it's always been and unfortunately, that's the way it always will be.

We "OWN" nothing. To prove this point just stop paying your property taxes.
 

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