Egon
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Putting rebar in to hold wood might be interesting when the wood rots!
Steep is best with no loose stuff on it.
Steep is best with no loose stuff on it.
Stabilizing a treacherous SxS trail- advice?
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Diggin It
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I haven't see any of my 4x4s used on surface as borders completely rot away. But for a 50-100' trail I might consider used railroad ties. There would only be about 8-10 needed at $15/ea or so.
LittleBill21
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rail road ties rot as well if there is water, i have 25 of them almost rotted through
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OP here. Anyone ever seen a retaining wall made like this?
Saw a boat slip carved out of the bank and down to a river, ramp itself paved but it left an embankment on both sides of the ramp since the ramp angle to the river was shallow and the bank angle was steep. From the looks of it, they made the two retaining walls out of burlap bags of cement, maybe 100 lbs each, stacked like large bricks would be laid up, with each successive course staggered over the previous course, and set back into the bank a few inches per course, for gravity's sake.
You could still see the imprint of the burlap sack in the surface each bulging "brick", even though the burlap was long gone.
So, did they fill each burlap bag with wet cement or did they fill the bags with a dry mix that was somehow hydrated after stacking into a wall?
Saw a boat slip carved out of the bank and down to a river, ramp itself paved but it left an embankment on both sides of the ramp since the ramp angle to the river was shallow and the bank angle was steep. From the looks of it, they made the two retaining walls out of burlap bags of cement, maybe 100 lbs each, stacked like large bricks would be laid up, with each successive course staggered over the previous course, and set back into the bank a few inches per course, for gravity's sake.
You could still see the imprint of the burlap sack in the surface each bulging "brick", even though the burlap was long gone.
So, did they fill each burlap bag with wet cement or did they fill the bags with a dry mix that was somehow hydrated after stacking into a wall?
Quite common around here at driveways around a culvert. They'll just stack cement, still in the paper bag, and call it good. Wet it with a hose and let it harden. The paper eventually dissolves away, or people burn it off.
The problem is, it's crappy. The concrete to water ratio won't be right, and it won't be consistent throughout. Might have a dry, crumbly center, and over watered outer layer that just flakes away over time. That said, some of the big farm field entrances around here done by this method might be 80 years old.
