ARC Fault Breakers. Your Experiences.

[Chris616]

I am building a load shedding system which is in a cabinet adjacent to my load center. I have to run my heating circuits into this new box. But if the wires are not long enough and you can't make connections inside the load center cabinet, sp what is a guy supposed to do? Can you solder connections or something to make them compliant?

I can't find a reference to the CEC, but it is fairly closely aligned to the NEC used by our neighbours to the south. From what these references say, it is legal to make splices in a circuit breaker enclosure.
Splices Permitted in Panel Enclosure, NEC 211 - 312.8 (2min:47sec) - YouTube
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Chris

(A pet peeve of mine - it's in everyone's best interest if people follow the NEC (in America) or CEC (in Canada). Fewer people will be killed and less taxpayer money spent on fighting fires. Our federal governments should subsidize their production so that the NEC and CEC are available free of charge to everyone.)

 

[Industrial Toys]

The printed rules are often difficult to interpret. And inspectors all have their own take on it and often their own ideas of what they want and don't want to see.

Places like home Depot sold books makeing it easy to understand the code but things like splices in load center enclosures likely are not mentioned.

 

[buickanddeere]

AFCI and GFCI are not for use on smoke detectors circuits , sump pump circuits , home heating/cooling circuits and on fridges/freezers .

 

[grsthegreat]

AFCI and GFCI are not for use on smoke detectors circuits , sump pump circuits , home heating/cooling circuits and on fridges/freezers .

agree whole heartily...but the code says different. says EVERY residential 120 circuit that is not GFCI protected shall be arc fault protected...but not in my house..EVER

 

[buickanddeere]

agree whole heartily...but the code says different. says EVERY residential 120 circuit that is not GFCI protected shall be arc fault protected...but not in my house..EVER

Canadian Electrical Code allows exemptions for kitchen fridge, some smoke detector applications and sump pumps.

 

[grsthegreat]

Canadian Electrical Code allows exemptions for kitchen fridge, some smoke detector applications and sump pumps.

did not know that . as far as i know, the NEC does not. Idaho has not (so far) enforced the arc fault requirement for entire house, but Washington state has. were probably not too far behind

 

[Industrial Toys]

Funny that they admit how useless and unreliable they are.

 

[fried1765]

Canadian Electrical Code allows exemptions for kitchen fridge, some smoke detector applications and sump pumps.[/QUO

Could that all be about (unreliability) nuisance trips?
Yah think?

 

[buickanddeere]

Canadian Electrical Code allows exemptions for kitchen fridge, some smoke detector applications and sump pumps.[/QUO

Could that all be about (unreliability) nuisance trips?
Yah think?

Yup Yup

 

[fried1765]

Yup Yup

Of course!

So SOME circuits need protection,...... but some do not?
Makes perfect sense to me.