Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[buickanddeere]

Shirley Meng, Maxwellç—´ DBE, Jeff Dahn & Goodenoughç—´ Glass Electrolyte: My Tesla Battery Conspiracy - YouTube

Dr. Goodenough who is now 97 made possible for the EV's of today by inventing the Lithium Ion battery. In the 12 minute video below he talks about it is possible to Lithium with Sodium and the oceans are full off Sodium unlike Lithium. The second video is longer but covers his childhood to the Lithium Ion era.

Expert Opinion with Dr. Goodenough - The Future of Battery Storage (Expert Audience) - YouTube

ECS Masters - John B. Goodenough - YouTube

Solid State Batteries - has Goodenough nailed it again?? - YouTube

In an interview Elon Musk was talking about EV battery technology advances and that he may start on an electric airplane around 2030 due to batteries he sees coming down the pike that are in labs today. When the batteries get that good then the talk about EV batteries may be over and they will just become a commodity item that works for many miles with fast recharging.

Tesla Electric Plane: Plans, Timeline for an Elon Musk's Flying Machine | Inverse

Batteries are not going to å*µet that good? Do you not understand how batteries work ?

 

[airbiscuit]

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Total all the energy from manufacture to disposal of the entire EV vs the entire ICE vehicle . Now consider the source of the EV痴 power . The EV costs more and pollutes more .
Sorry but you sacred cow of world peace and zero pollution does not exist . Nor can you wish it into existence with money and research .

I guess life must be hard for you having to watch people daily doing what you tell them they can not do. Have you owned an EV or even driven one yet?

You are fully aware major car companies have announced they are going to stop selling cars with the ICE power plant. If not EV's than what power source do you think they are going to use? Do you think they are all planning to close and get out of the transportation industry?

If you want to keep keep spamming up this tread go ahead because you are driving a better understanding that the ICE option is going away.

It was just a few months ago when I was as blind to the future as you perhaps are today. Closing in on 70 with the kids just turning 22 got me to thinking what it will be like for them 50 years down the road for them.

What non ICE options do you see today's 20 year old people planning to use 20 years from now?

 

[California]

But a locomotive is heavy! How can that be efficient?

Is there anything we can learn here to apply to automobiles?

 

[buickanddeere]

But a locomotive is heavy! How can that be efficient?

Is there anything we can learn here to apply to automobiles?

By keeping the the topic in context . The rail locomotive and container ship are efficient in Tons of freight per gallon .

 

[cqaigy2]

You think that every combination of elements and chemicals for anodes, cathodes and electrolyte have not been tried by now ? Every military around the world has been spending $$$ in search of better batteries since the first diesel electric submarine and space flight .
There is no combination of materials waiting on the shelf to be mixed together and make a 1000watt per Kg battery.

So you are saying we've already thought of and done everything. If that's so, why do we still have cancer?

 

[buickanddeere]

So you are saying we've already thought of and done everything. If that's so, why do we still have cancer?

Finding the cause and cure for cancer is not anything that requires new elements or breaking the laws of physics .
Do some of you really not know the difference ? Or are you playing stupid !

 

[airbiscuit]

 

[California]

And we'll never make it to the moon.

 

[airbiscuit]

New pharmaceuticals, medical treatments, materials, etc, are developed without using new elements or breaking the laws of physics. The same potential holds true for EVs and batteries.

 

[Jstpssng]

So you are saying we've already thought of and done everything. If that's so, why do we still have cancer?

My nephew, with a PhD in Cellular and Molecular Biology and a PostDoc in something I can't even spell, states that there never will be a cure for cancer.

 

[Jim Nelson]

After going through breast cancer with my wife I feel certain that there is way too much money in treatment to ever seriously look for a cure.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
He sees the other side of it, the very nature of the disease means that we always will have to deal with it in some way, shape, or form.

 

[buickanddeere]

Same reason why the thermal efficiency of a oil, gas or coal power plant needs a lot of tech, extra equipment and expensive alloys to exceed 50% thermal efficiency .
If more research and discovering new materials solves everything . Why hasn’t the Rankin cycle steam engine that’s been around in various forms since 1698 have 95% efficiency ?

 

[Jstpssng]

Same reason why the thermal efficiency of a oil, gas or coal power plant needs a lot of tech, extra equipment and expensive alloys to exceed 50% thermal efficiency .
If more research and discovering new materials solves everything . Why hasn’t the Rankin cycle steam engine that’s been around in various forms since 1698 have 95% efficiency ?

Could that be because nobody has tried?

 

[California]

The moon landing was faked. The Earth is flat. Vaccines cause autism. The Statue of Liberty is there to scare off immigrants. EV's will never work.

Did I miss any?

 

[Jstpssng]

The moon landing was faked. The Earth is flat. Vaccines cause autism. The Statue of Liberty is there to scare off immigrants. EV's will never work.

Did I miss any?

Yes, a couple of things. JFK and Elvis are both still alive, hanging out on an island with Marilyn.

 

[grsthegreat]

Yes, a couple of things. JFK and Elvis are both still alive, hanging out on an island with Marilyn.

and were flown to that island by Amelia Earhart

 

[California]

Here you go, Gale. This Chevy Bolt is said to have made it all the way to Florida from NY.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

My nephew, with a PhD in Cellular and Molecular Biology and a PostDoc in something I can't even spell, states that there never will be a cure for cancer.

Cancer comes in many forms. We have developed very few cures for anything . Most medicines treat symptoms, they don’t cure.