Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[CalG]

As more residential solar becomes a reality, the utilities will be happy to find a market for their surplus capacity (likely off peak at that).

On a different topic, I always wondered why EVs didn't have a small, super efficient, constant speed, diesel generator on board to extend range, emergency back up etc.

We will Never see Silicon based photo voltaics replace significant capacity.

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I have yet to see any major wreck pictures of electric vehicles. Are the dynamics much different?

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I did find this list of wrecked Leafs tonight. Of course they are all for parts or are rebuild able or they would not be listed so I am sure there are mangled ones out there somewhere. One did have the charger/inverter/motor driven back into the firewall yet the cabin and glass seemed to be intact in most of them. Lot of blown air bags but the passenger spaces seemed ok so I took that as a positive sign. Clearly the rear hatches do not hold up well when rear ended. I just hope to never test ours crash worthiness.

This is our sixth Nissan (just the first one without a gas tank) and even with the 1973 forward we never were in a serious accident. If Nissan's next generations of EV's do well I expect we will stick with Nissan EV's going forward. There are some other brands that I like but I expect we will keep buying used and if new I can not see spending $50K-$100K for sure.

 

[California]

Then there is the time ... wasted.... while the batteries recharge. Perhaps there is no price on that. Perhaps such "delays" could be "converted" to pleasant activities I really don't like to stop when I travel.

Then there is the anxiety of always wondering if you can make it...

As I replied to a Texan, the majority of the US population doesn't live out where long trips are common. Most urban families would keep a gas pickup or van as a second car for their infrequent towing, hauling, and the infrequent road trip.

The average and also most popular commute time in the US, home to work, is 20 minutes. Soccer mommy stuff, shopping, entertainment, aren't long trips outside a short radius. An EV owner would never see the fearful 'long delay' in these typical activities. Christmas at Grandma's? Everybody pile into the van or 4 door pickup.

These aren't an answer to everything, rather, they are well suited to where an urban household (80% of Americans) puts miles on one of their multiple vehicles.

 

[Gunny]

My wife has a 7 mile one way commute to her job, but she's constantly driving into town (also 7 miles) for one thing or the other. I've wondered if it would make sense to get an EV just for her.

When she's not working, we go into the big cities often, which would involve more than 100 miles round trip, no charging stations in the areas we go to, so she would have to keep her present car, which we just bought two months ago.

I do have my diesel pickup, but it's primarily for towing the 5th wheel and farm use, plus like all 1 ton trucks, it's a rough riding son of a gun, so it's rarely used to our outings, unless we're going to pick up something while we're out that's large enough to require the truck.

I'm convinced that her short trip driving would be considerably cheaper with an EV than it would with her present car, but I'm also wondering if any potential savings would be absorbed in the additional expense of insurance, maintenance and taxes on a third vehicle.

 

[Jstpssng]

I was in the small border town of Jackman Maine this week. (population, not many.) They really are on the edge of nowhere, the nearest major US town is Skowhegan (population 8200), which is 75 miles away. Timber is the major industry there so diesel rules. Tourists generally are up to go hunting, ATVing, or snowsledding depending on the season.
Yet one convenience store just replaced it's 4 generic EV chargers with as many Tesla chargers. The clerk says these get a lot of use from people on their way through, going to or from Quebec. The same store also has a working payphone on an outside wall; and even has free air if your tires are low. I can't remember the last time that I saw free air, most places now have those pay machines which take forever to pump your tires, and usually shut off just as you get to the fourth one.

 

[Industrial Toys]

The expensive electric vehicles no doubt have their tires filled with nitrogen.

 

[4570Man]

The expensive electric vehicles no doubt have their tires filled with nitrogen.

All my my equipment does too. Well 78 percent worth.

 

[CalG]

As I replied to a Texan, the majority of the US population doesn't live out where long trips are common. Most urban families would keep a gas pickup or van as a second car for their infrequent towing, hauling, and the infrequent road trip.

The average and also most popular commute time in the US, home to work, is 20 minutes. Soccer mommy stuff, shopping, entertainment, aren't long trips outside a short radius. An EV owner would never see the fearful 'long delay' in these typical activities. Christmas at Grandma's? Everybody pile into the van or 4 door pickup.

These aren't an answer to everything, rather, they are well suited to where an urban household (80% of Americans) puts miles on one of their multiple vehicles.

Ahh This is a TRACTOR forum. I don't know who those people are that need or want an ev. I certainly can not speak for them.

jus' say'in

 

[Industrial Toys]

I love and use my E-Gator probably more on the farm than any other single piece of equipment.

 

[California]

Ahh This is a TRACTOR forum. I don't know who those people are that need or want an ev.

Me!

I make the 100 mile (each way) run between home in an urban area, and the ranch (orchard) where my two tractors are, nearly weekly. It's 80% of the miles I put on a car.

I've been badly tempted to buy a Bolt to use for this run. If it just had the cargo space of my Focus Wagon that does this trip nearly always loaded full up, I would already own the Bolt.

Chevy said a mini-suv on the Bolt platform will be the next version released. That or possibly a Tesla Y will replace the now 16 year old Focus.