Buying Advice Tractor I need vs tractor I want.

   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #31  
Good (commercial grade) zero turns are expensive. For me the cost of a premium RFM over a jumbo sized commercial grade zero turn that does nothing but mow made the RFM + zero turn trim size the more economical decision. So I just got a 72" RFM and a trim size (54") zero turn. That was 12 years and well over a thousand mowing hours ago. If I had to do it over again I would do this the same way. Scuts are very versatile these days. Makes decision making a bit more difficult.
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #32  
I'd aim to the higher end of what you can afford. I use a 7ft finish mower on my 5 acres of pasture. I can mow it in about 1 hour and use a cheap rider for the fence line and yard around the house. I have a 5 ft rotary cutter for when I let it go. Other thing is pulling my 6 ft box blade for my drive.

So i went with a 50hp tractor. Granted i settled for 2wd but at $5,000 for the tractor, loader and rotary cutter, it was worth it.

The other thing to consider is if you plan to lift much with the front loader. I use forks to move heavy stuff all the time. Counter weight, tractor weight is a big deal. Mine weighs about 5-6k lbs which is a big deal when you try and pickup 1-2,000 lbs off the front end.

My buddy has a mid mount for his 24hp mahindra. He ditched it and bought a JD commercial zero turn.
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #33  
While a 125 will do a lot, I don't think you'll be happy trying to do those tasks with it. It will be better for some of the lesser tasks after the big work is done, but I'm not sure it'll be sufficient for 10 acres. LS has a few options in the next couple of size steps.

Actually you can do a lot of work with a small tractor if you have the time. When my brother in law first purchased the 42.29 acres of which I now own 11.29 acres of, he mowed most of it with a 750 JD two wheel drive tractor with a 4 foot bushhog. It took about a month to get it mowed the first time due to it being so overgrown with weeds and sapling higher than the tractor but he managed most of it since he was retired and had all the time in the world. Later I bought a 42 HP 4WD with 6 foot bushhog and together we mowed it in about a week (some of the low areas didn't never got mowed with the JD because it was 2WD and would get stuck on a cow patty. He later got a New Holland 2310 with 4WD and FEL and 6 foot bushhog which he uses on the 30+ acres that he has and moves big round hay bales.

Anyway, a 25 HP tractor will likely take care of 11 acres and do anything you need for maintenance, I.E. mowing, box blade work, etc. So be sure that you get one with HST AND a 3 speed transmission. Some ground engaging might need the L gear for pulling. Some of the smaller tractors will only have a 2 speed transmission.

The biggest drawback with small tractors is the FEL lift capacity. So calculate what the most weight and highest lift that you will need and check the specification of
tractors that are within your budget for the size that will meet your requirements.
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #34  
We had a Kubota BX2370. After 3 years we just traded it for a Kubota L3901. My opinion is that is was just enough to get tasks done with minimum ability. Those jobs were done inefficiently and it just wan't big enough to do those jobs well. Our 48" brush hog took too long to cut our 7 acre field (12 hours each time). Our 6" auger just barely lifted off the ground and if you hit a bump and it bottomed out it would just about jar your teeth out. The blade would push snow, but we often had to use only a portion of the blade or we wouldn't have enough traction. We could pull our 375 gallon water cart, but the wheels would spin on an incline. We could lift things with the bucket, but it didn't go high enough to take things off of a trailer. The list goes on.

We just got the new one and have only tried it in snow, but boy what a difference so far with a 72" blade and more weight and traction! We are looking forward to trying the 72" brush hog this spring.
 
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   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #35  
It can be over done. Ruts in the yard, inability to maneuver around or in barns and buildings that are close together. Large size can either be an asset or liability. Right sized is nice. Small, when needed isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #36  
Digging a foundation with a skid steer or a dozer?? That痴 a new one. You don稚 have to move a lot of dirt for a foundation, a tractor backhoe is easily up to the task. A conventional to my area gravel septic system is a different story.

Not around me. The rocky soil of the Ozarks is too much on a foundation dig for a backhoe, unless you want to spend days doing it. Nearly all around me are dup with loader/dozers
 
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#37  
I feel like you are all over estimating my needs, and I probably did a bad job describing it.

The house will have a bit of a yard around it, maybe and acre. Then the sides of the driveway will be nice and groomed. Say 600 feet long. That covers my "mowing" needs.

I'll need to drag the driveway every so often to keep it in good shape.

I'll need to bush hog most of the rest of it a few times a year.

I'll probably have some garden work, like moving some soil, mulch and that kind of small scale stuff.

I'll probably have some drainage issues that need ironed out as time goes by.

I don't foresee needing to lift a ton of weight, although as we build, I can see uses for standing up walls and suck for a loader but still nothing extremely heavy.

I think the early on work of getting the land ready to build on is best left to either a pro or at least more capable equipment. I'm sure a pro with a skid steer or small dozer can make short work of what I need done.

That all leads me to thinking a 25hp tractor is enough, maybe a larger framed one as some have suggested. Like a B-series for example or B50 series.

That being said, the kid and man in me wants to go bigger. Lift huge things, knock over trees, and other fun stuff. Those types of tractors don't come with a MMM, which is what my wife wants and needs in order to do the mowing. She's not helpless and afraid of work so the comments about her not doing it and leaving it to me hold no weight, she's not like that at all.

I appreciate all the good information. Thanks
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #38  
As you get older a few pounds will feel like a ton.

My gravel driveway is 600 feet long and requires a lot of tractor work to take care of.

Although I could have bought a backhoe I didn't and haven't regretted that decision.

I have a B7800 I bought new that has 1300 hours on it now. It has to grunt a little now and then but that's what Kubota's do best.

If you live close to a lot of friends that can easily come and help you then don't get a loader. If not get a loader.
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #39  
I feel like you are all over estimating my needs, and I probably did a bad job describing it.

The house will have a bit of a yard around it, maybe and acre. Then the sides of the driveway will be nice and groomed. Say 600 feet long. That covers my "mowing" needs.

I'll need to drag the driveway every so often to keep it in good shape.

I'll need to bush hog most of the rest of it a few times a year.

I'll probably have some garden work, like moving some soil, mulch and that kind of small scale stuff.

I'll probably have some drainage issues that need ironed out as time goes by.

I don't foresee needing to lift a ton of weight, although as we build, I can see uses for standing up walls and suck for a loader but still nothing extremely heavy.

I think the early on work of getting the land ready to build on is best left to either a pro or at least more capable equipment. I'm sure a pro with a skid steer or small dozer can make short work of what I need done.

That all leads me to thinking a 25hp tractor is enough, maybe a larger framed one as some have suggested. Like a B-series for example or B50 series.

That being said, the kid and man in me wants to go bigger. Lift huge things, knock over trees, and other fun stuff. Those types of tractors don't come with a MMM, which is what my wife wants and needs in order to do the mowing. She's not helpless and afraid of work so the comments about her not doing it and leaving it to me hold no weight, she's not like that at all.

I appreciate all the good information. Thanks

I was going to suggest to keep the lawn mowing part of the yard to a minimum. I am going to look at mowing some of my areas less often.

Maybe your wife would go for a push mower...... :)
 
   / Tractor I need vs tractor I want. #40  
I feel like you are all over estimating my needs, and I probably did a bad job describing it.

The house will have a bit of a yard around it, maybe and acre. Then the sides of the driveway will be nice and groomed. Say 600 feet long. That covers my "mowing" needs.

I'll need to drag the driveway every so often to keep it in good shape.

I'll need to bush hog most of the rest of it a few times a year.

I'll probably have some garden work, like moving some soil, mulch and that kind of small scale stuff.

I'll probably have some drainage issues that need ironed out as time goes by.

I don't foresee needing to lift a ton of weight, although as we build, I can see uses for standing up walls and suck for a loader but still nothing extremely heavy.

I think the early on work of getting the land ready to build on is best left to either a pro or at least more capable equipment. I'm sure a pro with a skid steer or small dozer can make short work of what I need done.

That all leads me to thinking a 25hp tractor is enough, maybe a larger framed one as some have suggested. Like a B-series for example or B50 series.

That being said, the kid and man in me wants to go bigger. Lift huge things, knock over trees, and other fun stuff. Those types of tractors don't come with a MMM, which is what my wife wants and needs in order to do the mowing. She's not helpless and afraid of work so the comments about her not doing it and leaving it to me hold no weight, she's not like that at all.

I appreciate all the good information. Thanks


IMHO, don't go with the scut, at the very beginning you will be happy with the new machine (toy). But soon you will realize how limited you are in terms of capabilities, you will outgrowth that little machine in no time.
Kioti CK2610 accepts MMM and it has some nice features.
Kubota B50 series, soon to be replaced by the LX series, are nice tractors but I will consider something with more weight.
Like other suggested a 3000 pounds bare tractor weight should be better for the needs you described.

Kubota L3560
Deere 2038 (or similar)
MF 1736 (or similar)
Kioti CK series

Good luck and make sure you take your time and try every machine beforehand.
 

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