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[Industrial Toys]

Those would be hard to secure.

 

[wheelbuilder]

Yeah, I try and spray them with a light lube like Crown. How nice would a butterfly, thumb turn be though?

My other peeve is that the straps are ALWAYS too long! So I roll up the ends and tie them with a wire tie. I'm paranoid about having the ends blowing in the wind or getting under a wheel!

I will shorten ratchet straps if its something I haul regularly. I keep a regular length set around too, just in case.

 

[Jstpssng]

Maybe it's where I live, but I see bungie cords and ratchet straps all the time. I got both my 'logging' chains found on the roadside for free.

I wouldn't dare guess how many chains I've picked up off the road, including my best binder chain. That one I found all coiled up on the shoulder while walking back to my truck, it must have gone flying off a truck and just stacked right up where it hit the ground.

 

[dstig1]

Here is the result of bad hauling:

Truck driver pleads guilty in deaths of mother, daughter killed by tumbling boulder in Rosemount Twin Cities

Short summary is that a landscape business owner was hauling unsecured boulders that bounced out and killed 2 others in another car. Just sentenced to the terms described in the plea agreement. Couldn't find a site without paywall with sentencing details, but they are the same as described in this earlier article.

Rob

He got 10 months. I recall when that hit the news here (local)

 

[Jstpssng]

I couldn't find it today, but there was a case here in Maine a few years ago where a rock collector put a specimen on his car roof and forgot about it. It fell off and killed somebody, yet he was found not guilty of manslaughter.

 

[duramaxsky]

I couldn't find it today, but there was a case here in Maine a few years ago where a rock collector put a specimen on his car roof and forgot about it. It fell off and killed somebody, yet he was found not guilty of manslaughter.

In a criminal case they must prove intent. It would be hard to do that in this case.

 

[KennyG]

In a criminal case they must prove intent. It would be hard to do that in this case.

Manslaughter doesn't require intent. Showing negligence is adequate.

 

[coldsteelva]

There is a big difference with forgetting a small object on a vehicle roof (like this specimen hypothetical) and a giant boulder. Manslaughter does not require intent, but it requires that the initial conduct was willful (done on purpose) and a reasonable person should know that there is a huge risk of injury or death because of that conduct.

In the case of the boulder, anyone can tell that a large, unsecured object could easily cause serious injury or death if not secured properly (since it required equipment to move in the 1st place). In the case of the small portable rock specimen, the conduct was an accident(forgotten object) and the chances of it coming off the vehicle in such a way to lead to a death is >0 , but only fractionally so.

 

[LD48750]

There is a big difference with forgetting a small object on a vehicle roof (like this specimen hypothetical) and a giant boulder. Manslaughter does not require intent, but it requires that the initial conduct was willful (done on purpose) and a reasonable person should know that there is a huge risk of injury or death because of that conduct.

In the case of the boulder, anyone can tell that a large, unsecured object could easily cause serious injury or death if not secured properly (since it required equipment to move in the 1st place). In the case of the small portable rock specimen, the conduct was an accident(forgotten object) and the chances of it coming off the vehicle in such a way to lead to a death is >0 , but only fractionally so.

Considering it REQUIRED equipment to move it in the first place, many a REASONABLE person would think it would REQUIRE equipment to move it again.
Lots of people have NO IDEA of how easy things move when being hauled down the road.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I never understood why people that make mistakes or have accidents often get punished worse than Criminals who intentionally or without any regard whatsoever, injure or kill people.