China Corona Virus #2

[pennwalk]

It strikes me that it would be a lot more helpful to tell us how to use n-95 masks properly than to advise against using them.

WHO advises people who wish to wear a mask to place the mask “carefully to cover mouth and nose and tie securely to minimise any gaps between the face and the mask,” avoid touching the mask while you’re wearing it, and dispose of masks as soon as they become damp or humid. When removing the face mask, WHO recommends that people “do not touch the front but remove the lace from behind.”

I think I have a couple of n-95 masks in the shop. I can't remember what project I got them for but in any case knowing how to use them properly would be useful in the shop too.

Chris

 

[oldballs]

Does anyone wonder if this virus is one that the Chinese had hoped to use for a biological warfare tool ? Maybe their cat got out of their bag by accident. IIRC the Army did train us for such eventualities way back in the 50's.

 

[ovrszd]

Does anyone wonder if this virus is one that the Chinese had hoped to use for a biological warfare tool ? Maybe their cat got out of their bag by accident. IIRC the Army did train us for such eventualities way back in the 50's.

Yep Mike, that's been mentioned several times in the first thread. Some sources say that's what happened. No definitive proof yet.

I was telling my wife the other day about how the military tested the effects of Nuclear explosions by exposing Soldiers.....

 

[Molalla1]

Does anyone wonder if this virus is one that the Chinese had hoped to use for a biological warfare tool ? Maybe their cat got out of their bag by accident. IIRC the Army did train us for such eventualities way back in the 50's.

I would suppose OB that is a good possibility.

 

[Molalla1]

Yep Mike, that's been mentioned several times in the first thread. Some sources say that's what happened. No definitive proof yet.

I was telling my wife the other day about how the military tested the effects of Nuclear explosions by exposing Soldiers.....

Too many things Richard . . .

 

[ovrszd]

To many thing Richard . . .

Flashback..... NBC training. You've been attacked and are under MOPP 4, fully clothed and masked. After awhile you need to know if it's okay to unmask. Pick the most disposable Soldier and have him unmask for a couple seconds. Watch him for a few minutes, no ill effects. Have him unmask for a couple minutes. Watch him for a few minutes, no ill effects. Unmask the unit. True story.....

 

[Molalla1]

Flashback..... NBC training. You've been attacked and are under MOPP 4, fully clothed and masked. After awhile you need to know if it's okay to unmask. Pick the most disposable Soldier and have him unmask for a couple seconds. Watch him for a few minutes, no ill effects. Have him unmask for a couple minutes. Watch him for a few minutes, no ill effects. Unmask the unit. True story.....

I definitely know . . .

 

[Molalla1]

Richard, I respect you . . . :drink: and thank you for your service.

 

[California]

Does anyone wonder if this virus is one that the Chinese had hoped to use for a biological warfare tool ? Maybe their cat got out of their bag by accident.

If you want to go down that rabbithole please start a different thread, this one should be about how to weather this crisis. Or non-crisis depending on what you read.

But here's some Conspiracy Theory to get you started in that different thread: Wuhan and Harvard each have bio labs and they cooperate with each other. Back in January the principal researcher at Harvard and two of his lab assistants were detained. One assistant was found to be a lieutenant in the Chinese army, one was arrested at the airport carrying bio samples. And that principal researcher was found to be drawing a larger salary from the Chinese government than his Harvard salary. I haven't seen any mention of this since.

Ok take that to Friendly Politics to explore that line of inquiry. This thread would go all to h- if discussion of this distraction intruded here. Emphasis here should be on what can we do to protect ourselves.



If you do take that to FP please provide a link. I'm curious about that topic, too.

 

[sd455dan]

in October 2019 Johns Hopkins / Gates Foundation /World Economic Forum simulated an outbreak of a Novel Corona Virus based in South America

Some Ideas on how to deal
Countries and Corporations are well represented

Event 201



Event 21, a pandemic exercise to illustrate preparedness efforts

video reel AGAIN this is just a simulation

Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reel - YouTube

a disclaimer - this was posted after COVID19 spread


Statement about nCoV and our pandemic exercise
In October 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted a pandemic tabletop exercise called Event 201 with partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Recently, the Center for Health Security has received questions about whether that pandemic exercise predicted the current novel coronavirus outbreak in China.

To be clear, the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction.

Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic.

We are not now predicting that the nCoV-2019 outbreak will kill 65 million people.

Although our tabletop exercise included a mock novel coronavirus,


the inputs we used for modeling the potential impact of that fictional virus are not similar to nCoV-2019.