Corona Virus #4

[sd455dan]

The whole story.
Only two deaths in Italy because of COVID-19. The other deaths were other diseases/ailments with COVID-19.
Italy's Department of Civil Protection: Only two confirmed deaths because of COVID-19 - Naked Food Magazine

Is Naked Food floating the idea that old infirmed people would have over run ICUs and died with Out Covid 19 infection??

This posted within the last 24 hours from CIDRAP ( Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy)



Doctors: COVID-19 pushing Italian ICUs toward collapse

Today, Italy announced 3,233 more confirmed cases, boosting its overall total to 27,980, and 349 new confirmed deaths, 2,158 total.

 

[rekees4300]

Why does your sig emphasize 'Dem'? Or is it 'Panic'?

It's ironic that the word pandemic has the word panic embedded.

Pandemic - Wikipedia

 

[rekees4300]

Hello from Normandy, I glad to live on a farm, that gives me the priviledge to be outside instead of being locked up in the house. Already have a long list of things to do for the next 14 days, so it will not become boring. Got my supplies in time last week and should be okay for the net 2 weeks. Hopefully then the craze is over with!!!

:welcome: Is your Normandy the one in France?

 

[California]

I was looking for something to make sense to someone who was going to babysit a 8 month old child. The 23 year old mother was working and her babysitter had a funeral to got to. The one going to do the babysitting fill in job has some conditions that put her at great risk, but it's her grand-child. The 23 year old works in a Dr's office in a large city, and I felt that is not ideal.

I emailed that and a coupe of other links to her. It made sense to her and she changed her mind.

This illustrates how we have to reconsider everything we have taken for granted. In this case going to a funeral instead of avoiding it, a grandparent stepping in when help is needed, and the mother of a young child who has to go to work in a location of higher risk. Cancelling or deferring a funeral ceremony seems like a good idea. Cremation (ideally) or burial now without guests, and a memorial ceremony later, seem like good ideas in theory but culturally that's going to be wrenching. African traditional funerals were identified as focal points for spread of Ebola and there's something to learn from their example.

Also in the example above: Granny 'sheltering in place' and staying away from the medical employee is what's best for her, if the funeral-goer can be convinced to cancel and stay home with the kid (and avoid bring back the contagion).

These changes to normal living are going to be difficult.


Me personally - trying to decide if we should buy a month's groceries and retreat to exile in the ranch. At the moment we're at home in town with a couple of weeks of supplies. Sonoma County, where the ranch is, is likely to join the (adjacent) Bay Area total shutdown which might force us to turn around instead of entering the county.

Strange times.

 

[CobyRupert]

No one has to go to a funeral, besides the deceased.
Life is for the living.
Put them first.

 

[California]

Sonoma and Napa counties are at the outer perimeter of the greater Bay Area. Both are principal tourist destinations for Bay Area folks.

Both 'plan to issue shelter-in-place orders as soon as possible'.

SF Chronicle.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

No one has to go to a funeral, besides the deceased.
Life is for the living.
Put them first.

Here is a thought.

Coronavirus: US funerals move to live-streaming - BBC News

 

[/pine]

Obviously America has a long ways to go before we are over the hump of this pandemic...but sooner or later there will be a light at the end of the tunnel...

When was the last time that Americans collectively had something of this significance to look forward to?...

 

[daugen]

another silver lining, China's air pollution is down from ripple effect of coronavirus, will save lives of many.
I don't think that will help US though.

Italy sure has a problem, must be scary to live in Northern Italy right now.

 

[ultrarunner]

Hello from Normandy, I glad to live on a farm, that gives me the priviledge to be outside instead of being locked up in the house. Already have a long list of things to do for the next 14 days, so it will not become boring. Got my supplies in time last week and should be okay for the net 2 weeks. Hopefully then the craze is over with!!!

Welcome...

Just spoke with my cousin in Austria... said the same... lots of projects around the farm to do... she said those in the city have life much harder.