Dirt Moving Rear hydraulic remote .

[bryn67]

You need to disconnect the implement. Just let the cylinder hang loose and try that test again. Watch the video I posted a link to in post #48. It shows the test.

You should only try retracting the cylinder. If it extends while trying to retract, then it is bad seals.

Yes sorry about that , I see where I went wrong, will try it again tomorrow with implement removed . Thanks

 

[K5lwq]

Yes sorry about that , I see where I went wrong, will try it again tomorrow with implement removed . Thanks

Nothing to be sorry about. We all are working the issue. After you unhook the implement and no weight is on the cylinder, cycle it a few times before unhooking the return hose. Then do the test.

If that sucker retracts with the return hose disconnected, I would like to spend so time in your part of the world. Some extremely amazing things must exist there! :laughing:

 

[Beeenvenue]

Being able to use the float function feature allows a 3pt mower wheel end to move up-down much further than what the hitch on the mower allows for. If you happen to need to mow banks as in down to a pond or up a bank, when backing up to do this, having a top link in float mode allows the mower to follow the ground much better in those situations. That was just an example.

Float mode is irrelevant for you if you are using factory Kioti rear remotes. Kioti does not even offer rear remotes with the float feature any longer that I am aware of.

Good luck in getting what you need.

Thanks and great info. I will get one with dpcv then

But I am still confused - Forget hydraulics for a minute. If I use the standard manual top link it has no float, correct? So then if I do install a hydraulic top link with dpcvs I am not losing anything right?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thanks and great info. I will get one with dpcv then

But I am still confused - Forget hydraulics for a minute. If I use the standard manual top link it has no float, correct? So then if I do install a hydraulic top link with dpcvs I am not losing anything right?

Correct, you have lost nothing and gain the ability to adjust the top link with a touch of your finger tip.

This is probably the best (off the shelf) top link for your application.

 

[npalen]

I don't want to complicate the issue here but reading all of the above posts makes we wonder: Could a person simply disconnect the hose to the base end of the toplink cylinder (with the cylinder retracted) if float action was desired for a mowing job, for example?

Then letting the cylinder extend using the SCV with the 3PH raised would create a vacuum in the cylinder base. Might have to carefully loosen the disconnected hose tip temporarily to let some air in. Would need to retract the cylinder then prior to raising the 3PH during field operation.

I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this scenario both with and without DPOC so would be interested to hear others comments.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I don't want to complicate the issue here but reading all of the above posts makes we wonder: Could a person simply disconnect the hose to the base end of the toplink cylinder (with the cylinder retracted) if float action was desired for a mowing job, for example?

Then letting the cylinder extend using the SCV with the 3PH raised would create a vacuum in the cylinder base. Might have to carefully loosen the disconnected hose tip temporarily to let some air in. Would need to retract the cylinder then prior to raising the 3PH during field operation.

I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this scenario both with and without DPOC so would be interested to hear others comments.

No need to disconnect any of the hoses. Simply have the implement raised with the top link fully retracted, turn off the engine, let the top link extend. Now you have float for the top link and immediate use if-when needed. The vacuum pulled is not strong enough to require air to be let into the cylinder. So leave the hoses alone.

With a DPOCV, this can not be done in a timely way.

 

[npalen]

Would it make any difference whether the exit of the return line was above or below reservoir fluid level?

Edit: Guess it wouldn't as any fluid trying to enter the base of the cylinder would have to come via the pump line when letting the cylinder extend with the engine off.

This begs the question of whether the same thing could be accomplished with a FEL to get float without a float spool.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Would it make any difference whether the exit of the return line was above or below reservoir fluid level?

Edit: Guess it wouldn't as any fluid trying to enter the base of the cylinder would have to come via the pump line when letting the cylinder extend with the engine off.

This begs the question of whether the same thing could be accomplished with a FEL to get float without a float spool.

I don't know why not. :confused3: But any of this would be VERY inconvenient if it had to be done at short intervals IMO.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Would it make any difference whether the exit of the return line was above or below reservoir fluid level?

Edit: Guess it wouldn't as any fluid trying to enter the base of the cylinder would have to come via the pump line when letting the cylinder extend with the engine off.

This begs the question of whether the same thing could be accomplished with a FEL to get float without a float spool.

I don't know why not. :confused3: But any of this would be VERY inconvenient if it had to be done at short intervals IMO.

 

[npalen]

Brian, I'm thinking in the case of 3PH mower, for example, that done once you could run all day or until you no longer wanted float. I do think that in this case, the hose to the cylinder base would need to remain disconnected, however.

I've never tried it so don't know. Would be interesting to try.