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   / Corona Virus #7 #141  
Interesting. My takeaway: Sounds like it might work but the data presented is too random to support that claim.

As usual reading the replies broadens understanding:

"Bergamo hospital at the epicentre of the Italian outbreak has tentatively concluded that the terrible ICU demand is a result of immune reaction rather than the virus itself. As a result, they have dropped anti-viral medication and are treating patients with massive doses of CQ and steroids (enough to immuno-suppress them like transplant patients). The hypothetical prophylactic role of CQ in preventing viral entry may also be doing some good but it is seemingly not the primary goal in their new treatment regime"
Ok if that didn't go over my head: its the body's over-reaction that is causing stress and death. So treatment has now shifted to suppressing the immune system which is improving outcomes.

Other replies to the article say friends who work for Raoult, report such a severe authoritarian atmosphere that often real research is overwhelmed by Raoult's preconceived opinions.

Conclusion - The author of this critique is unable to come to a conclusion on the validity of Raoult's Youtube show.


Another observation by me: I thought that Slate photo of a doctor showed the guy who declared Trump positive on all his tests. Before I read that the photo is Raoult.
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #142  
Interesting. My takeaway: Sounds like it might work but the data presented is too random to support that claim.

As usual reading the replies broadens understanding:

Ok if that didn't go over my head: its the body's over-reaction that is causing stress and death. So treatment has now shifted to suppressing the immune system which is improving outcomes.

Other replies to the article say friends who work for Raoult, report such a severe authoritarian atmosphere that often real research is overwhelmed by Raoult's preconceived opinions.

Conclusion - The author of this critique is unable to come to a conclusion on the validity of Raoult's Youtube show.


Another observation by me: I thought that Slate photo of a doctor showed the guy who declared Trump positive on all his tests. Before I read that the photo is Raoult.

Correct, the bodies immune system throws everything but the kitchen sink at the damage in the lungs all at one, called a cytokine storm, and the immune system does more damage to the lungs than the virus does leading to death.
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #143  
Our senator is supporting masks4all and the governor said it might help. This would be the cloth masks you can make at home. Might be useful if everyone would do it but what's the chance of that?

Chris
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #144  
The radio said Lancaster county is up to 97 diagnosed cases. Isn't 100 where they start counting?

Chris
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #145  
I am in VA, "stay at home" State. By orders of our Gov.

My county is internet challenged. To include voice and data services. Schools closed, businesses shuttered, you get the picture. It's a state wide shutdown.

So yesterday, I get word that the county is setting up hot spot areas for internet connectivity. Commuter parking lots and whatnot.

It's funny and sad at the same time. You see internet has a long history of debate over whether it is a service or not, and who is best to provide it.

Under the Governors orders, driving to these hotspots can now be classified as "essential social services" or getting "services"

The only issue I see is gathering of more than ten people in the car at the parking lot where the hotspot is located.

The virus has people thinking in new ways trying to maintain the semblance of life before the virus.
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #146  
I remember before we got internet in the country or figured out how to use cellular connection for the laptop via our cellphones we would drive and park in the McDonald’s, Panera Bread or the local coffee shop to use the free WiFi to get essential online stuff done.
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #147  
Interesting. My takeaway: Sounds like it might work but the data presented is too random to support that claim.

As usual reading the replies broadens understanding:

Ok if that didn't go over my head: its the body's over-reaction that is causing stress and death. So treatment has now shifted to suppressing the immune system which is improving outcomes.

Other replies to the article say friends who work for Raoult, report such a severe authoritarian atmosphere that often real research is overwhelmed by Raoult's preconceived opinions.

Conclusion - The author of this critique is unable to come to a conclusion on the validity of Raoult's Youtube show.


Another observation by me: I thought that Slate photo of a doctor showed the guy who declared Trump positive on all his tests. Before I read that the photo is Raoult.

The interesting part is in the comments section. A lot of ideas and personalities showing!

Why are not all the folks taking the drug (hydroxychloroquine) for Lupus followed to determine if they come down with the virus and if so how different then others without?

The drug has been around for a long time. Here's some history of its use. The Nine Lives of Hydroxychloroquine | RheumNow - Rheumatology News & Information

There are many thing done in our society that are not approved by medical doctors who only go by what they are taught in school. Examples, how often do most diabetics change their lancets? Do they always clean the injection site with alcohol prior to injection? Do diabetics reuse syringes, reservoirs, tubing?

Here is a comment by one of the folks in the thread California posted. It sure makes sense to me. "Jim Andrews says:
30 March, 2020 at 11:54 am

As a surgeon and physician, in view of no other drugs have shown any effect, while Hydroxychloroquine and AZT has shown in vitro and in vivo results, I don't know any doctor wouldn't try it on severely symptomatic patients! Criticism of no large controlled trial has some merit but not when tens of thousands are dying with conventional supportive treatment, the patients has to be given an option of using the HCQ and AZT as last ditch resort. Having been a principal investigator for over 250 clinical trials I am not sure if a randomized control trial is ethical here! I believe patients who were not treated with such combinations in other hospitals should be used as control! To hear doctors that are critical of using HCQ AZT off label, they are either academic idiots who are not actively treating patients, or they suffer from 。t's not a good idea because it's龍 not my idea syndrome".
 
   / Corona Virus #7 #150  
Does anyone know if the guy that was washing his hands and face with Methanol as a safeguard against the virus is OK? I haven't seen him post since I warned him about the dangers of methanol poisoning. Has anyone seen him post? I cannot exactly remember his user name but would recognize it if I saw it. Something like zzzz yyyyy or something like that.
 
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