Virginia Anti-Gun Activist Unveils 2021 Gun Control Agenda

[Industrial Toys]

I do believe THIS IS a Canadian site. Maybe you are the guest here. Just sayin.

SADLY, few people are interested in the psychology of the human animal. The psychology of gun ownership itself is wide and varied. I WAS a gun enthusiast from age four and associated with similar person for years. I saw through the psychology of it and lost interest. Not to say, I don't think that I shouldn't be allowed to have firearm and ammunition at the ready for defence.

 

[jmc]

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced May 1 an immediate ban on "military-grade" assault weapons after Canada's deadliest mass shooting last month. (CTV)
By
Amanda Coletta
May 1, 2020 at 12:46 p.m. EDT
TORONTO The Canadian government on Friday announced an immediate ban on some 1,500 makes and models of 杜ilitary-grade assault weapons, including two weapons used by the gunman who killed 22 people in rural Nova Scotia during the country痴 deadliest mass shooting last month.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

There are still many challenges to be concerned about regarding Second Amendment rights in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

>>>>>Secretary of Public Safety Brian Moran and Lori Haas of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV). Virginia gun rights advocates may remember Haas as a vocal cheerleader for Attorney General Mark Herring's 2015 attempt to remove reciprocity for 25 states Right-to-Carry permits. Haas opposed the compromise legislation with then-Governor Terry McAuliffe that reversed Herring's maneuver by granting reciprocity to all state Right-to-Carry permits. Longtime gun rights supporters will know that CSGV is the handgun prohibition organization that until 1990 was known as the National Coalition to Ban Handguns.<<<<

No doubt this will be coming back up in the next legislative session.




TBS

OK... I think my 2nd rights should include UNIVERSAL carrying privileges in ALL 50 STATES. Period. End of conversation.

 

[Peter 315]

OK... I think my 2nd rights should include UNIVERSAL carrying privileges in ALL 50 STATES. Period. End of conversation.

TRUE.......:thumbsup:

 

[Hay Dude]

OK... I think my 2nd rights should include UNIVERSAL carrying privileges in ALL 50 STATES. Period. End of conversation.

That would be a big improvement
Tired of being scared to carry across state borders. Totally ridiculous

 

[5030]

OK... I think my 2nd rights should include UNIVERSAL carrying privileges in ALL 50 STATES. Period. End of conversation.

Well, it don't so deal with it.

 

[Hroller]

First, it doesn't criminalize the private sale of firearms. You have to go through a licensed firearms dealer to have a background check on the person you're selling the firearm to. What's so bad about checking to see if Johnny is a meth head wife beater with 7 felonies. More importantly, why are you opposed to that?

Second, rationing handgun sales, I don't agree with the limit on one a month. As long as you pass the background check, you should probably be able to purchase as many as you want.

Third, red flag laws:


Johnny is threatening to shoot the neighbor for mowing his lawn on Sunday!

How would you handle that situation?


Fourth, promptly reporting stolen firearms. You come home and find your house broken into, several guns and ammo missing.... I think I'll eat dinner and mow the lawn and maybe call the police tomorrow?

Why do you agree with that?

Fifth, how you store firearms and introduce children to firearms. To me, that's two separate issues.

1. storing, what's good enough?
- trigger lock?
- gun box?
- locked in a room?
- locked in your house?
- sitting on the coffee table in an unlocked house

How far do you have to go to make sure no one else gets ahold of your gun without your permission? Granted, no one should enter a house without permission, and that's criminal and should be prosecuted. However, what about people that are in your house with your permission. Should you have enough common sense to keep guns in a safe place, or trust other people to have common gun sense? If you choose the latter, is that criminal, or just niave?


2. introducing children to firearms.
- age?
- maturity level?
- parental judgement on both age and maturity?

Those things can't be measured by a number, and some parents aren't capable of making good judgements. When my kids were small, I didn't want them going to houses where guns were kept unlocked and in the open. Plain and simple. Not that I didn't trust my kids, but kids mess up sometimes, wether it's my kid or someone else's kid, kids mess up. So do adults. I introduced my kids to firearms when I thought they were ready. I've met some very mature kids that I think would be fine with the responsibility. And I've met some very immature kids that have become immature adults and I wouldn't trust with a toilet plunger, let alone a firearm.

Anyhow, those are my thoughts.

1: Background checks are only as good as the system data, the system data is dreadfully poor, I'm sure they are out there but EVERY gun owner I know that has done a private sale, knows the buyer.
2: I agree, it's a stupid law.
3: It violates Due Process, our Legal system says you're innocent until proven guilty, and ERPOs violate that, if they had Due Process AND provably false accusations were prosecuted I'd be a lot more ok with them, but they don't, and they aren't.
4: What happens when you don't know your gun is stolen, I have a locked gun box in a rural location, it might be 6 months before I go to that place (especially during the current lockdowns), I'm a criminal because someone stole my stuff and I didn't notice immediately?
5a: Depends, I don't have kids so I have no issues keeping a loaded gun on the nightstand (I don't leave it there when I'm not at the house, I wear it). ALL my other guns are locked in a safe or a "RSC" (what some people call safes but are really just glorified "keep honest people honest" boxes). If I had kids, the nightstand gun would be in a quick access safe AND the kids would be taught to respect it.
5b: I don't know what VA passed regarding introducing kids to guns, but it's none of their business, that's between the parent and the child.

 

[/pine]

Why does simple logic escape so many? and why does paranoia seem to replace it?...IMO the answer(s) is a basic lack of intellect or refusal to implement it...

 

[fried1765]

Why does simple logic escape so many? and why does paranoia seem to replace it?...IMO the answer(s) is a basic lack of intellect or refusal to implement it...

HUH ?????

 

[MossRoad]

If Government was at least effective in doing what they set out to do, that would be a different matter. They are highly ineffective and the BIGGER the Government, the less effective it will be.

One of the only good things about the "VIRUS". It set back Global agendas I believe.

I was just pondering the question that if I could snap my fingers and get rid of every firearm on the planet for ever, would I? I'm thinking probably YES.

Just keep the nukes.