Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic?

[riptides]

Me too.
I don’t think it will happen to that degree because there’s so many more government protections in place. We are a much more socialist society now than we were then.

Cash will always be king. And those government protections really don't cover people walking away from Mortgages. They may cover banks, again. Go figure.

 

[Hay Dude]

Ahh....no. For that class of vehicle, and the extra, extra's on it. I'd have to say it is a fair deal. When I replied to him, I was looking at the King Ranches, as that was what I was shopping for a while back.

All the truck makers are running around those figures. 50-80k. So it looks like there are "pretty good deals" to be had.

It’s no secret the F150 is the highest demand vehicle in the USA. Therefore, Ford knows theres no shortage of people lining up in droves to pay whatever they ask for them.
Supply & demand.

I just have to laugh at how small and light duty of a truck it is compared to heavier trucks. Youre paying for a legacy of 40 years bragging rights and luxury more than capability of bigger trucks.

 

[riptides]

It’s no secret the F150 is the highest demand vehicle in the USA. Therefore, Ford knows theres no shortage of people lining up in droves to pay whatever they ask for them.
Supply & demand.

I just have to laugh at how small and light duty of a truck it is compared to heavier trucks. Youre paying for a legacy of 40 years bragging rights and luxury more than capability of bigger trucks.

It's a 150. That class vehicle Dodge, GMC, Chevy.... are the working, daily driver truck market.

Now 250's and beyond...them is starting to be - trucks!

 

[Hay Dude]

It's a 150. That class vehicle Dodge, GMC, Chevy.... are the working, daily driver truck market.

Now 250's and beyond...them is starting to be - trucks!

Nahhhh, the F150 is the weekend warrior truck. :laughing:

 

[rush389]

f150 can be had with a really sweet heavy payload package that pushes payload up to near 2500 or so. but they are impossible to find. i bought a gas 2500hd but would have looked hard at a heavy f150 if one had been available.

 

[Hay Dude]

f150 can be had with a really sweet heavy payload package that pushes payload up to near 2500 or so. but they are impossible to find. i bought a gas 2500hd but would have looked hard at a heavy f150 if one had been available.

Take it from a farmer- you are always better off buying a vehicle (or piece of equipment) that is made to handle a load in its base form than a lighter duty vehicle “ beefed up “ to handle the same load.
The 150 may have overload springs, but the 3/4 ton usually has bigger brakes, bigger rims & higher weight rating tires, heavier frame, larger axles, bigger torque converter, bigger steering box and front end components and probably a heavier duty engine.
I constantly hear guys bragging up these small displacement engines as having the same HP as a bigger 5.3L or 6L GM gas engine. The smaller Ford eco boost engines are nice and economical, but they don’t have the rotating mass of the bigger, heavier engines. They’re not built to take the rigors of hauling heavy loads. Then there’s the stopping power aspect. A 5,000lb 1/2 ton truck will not stop a load as well as a 3/4 ton 6,500lb truck.

Compromise elsewhere

 

[nards444]

Take it from a farmer- you are always better off buying a vehicle (or piece of equipment) that is made to handle a load in its base form than a lighter duty vehicle “ beefed up “ to handle the same load.
The 150 may have overload springs, but the 3/4 ton usually has bigger brakes, bigger rims & higher weight rating tires, heavier frame, larger axles, bigger torque converter, bigger steering box and front end components and probably a heavier duty engine.
I constantly hear guys bragging up these small displacement engines as having the same HP as a bigger 5.3L or 6L GM gas engine. The smaller Ford eco boost engines are nice and economical, but they don’t have the rotating mass of the bigger, heavier engines. They’re not built to take the rigors of hauling heavy loads. Then there’s the stopping power aspect. A 5,000lb 1/2 ton truck will not stop a load as well as a 3/4 ton 6,500lb truck.

Compromise elsewhere

With bigger trucks you are spot on with bigger brakes, bigger suspension, heavier diff etc that stuff is what really matters when hauling weight around. To be fair when comparing some of these 1/2 tons to 3/4 tons today not counting engines just the truck the 1/2 tons are much closer then they used to be.

Now where I will differ is in motor. I have owened the 3.5 ecoboost, chevy 5.3, ford 5.0 and the ram 5.7. From my experience numbers wise not only does the ecoboost out perform but it did in real life as well. I would disagree that they arent built to handle load. For starters the 3.5 weighs 449lbs, Ford 5.o weighs 430 and chevy 5.3 weighs 476lbs. Your really not talking about engines that are that different in size. But yes size of heads matter, amount of pistons, etc. You also could have a point where forced induction will prematurely kill the engine compared to an NA engine, and yeah thats possible. But with that said these ecoboost engines have been on the market now for a decade and have been relatively issue free and have been proven if you go out and look at some of the date. Now if your talking about buying a truck thats a 3/4 ton with a diesel and plan on beating it for 200-300k miles you may have a point. But if you are talking about the average driver doing 12-15k a year keeping a vehicle for 5-6 years the ecoboost will do just fine.

 

[finn1]

Industry reports are that truck sales are on the road to recovery, but other vehicle sales have not. Vehicle assembly plants are slowly opening, but the component suppliers aren’t able to support full production.

Many, if not all of the small tractors this site deals with are either entirely imported, or built predominantly with imported parts, and port and overseas supplier procurement issues are affecting availability.

It’s really not fire sale time if your pipeline has stopped flowing.

 

[TractorGuy]

I'm no economist but I think the new vehicle prices are overdue for a market correction. I know I can't afford one. 60 grand for an F150? Gimme a break! I can buy a lot of repairs on my old truck for that kind of money and I still love driving it.

On the tractor front I have started seeing a few good deals on used equipment even at the dealerships. THAT doesn't make sense to me while some buyers are running scared of the emission tractors.

 

[nards444]

I'm no economist but I think the new vehicle prices are overdue for a market correction. I know I can't afford one. 60 grand for an F150? Gimme a break! I can buy a lot of repairs on my old truck for that kind of money and I still love driving it.

On the tractor front I have started seeing a few good deals on used equipment even at the dealerships. THAT doesn't make sense to me while some buyers are running scared of the emission tractors.

Ive said this for 5 years that vehicles are due for a price correction. This may be the event that does it, I guess well see. Trucks should cost no more then 35-40k thats it for the top model. With this all being said we have gone lease lately as the numbers on 5-10 year graph are much better than purchasing new.