Has anyone seen any deals due to this pandemic?

[Jstpssng]

Maybe I can help you visualize?

That's about 185 full kegs of beer... :drink:

Wow, talk about inflation! I had to do the math to determine what a keg costs these days. I think that we used to pay $30 or something like that... every Thursday night somebody would come knocking on the door of our dorm, looking for 15 guys to kick in their 2 dollars.

OOPs, I thought there were dollar signs by that 30k. :embarrassed:

 

[fried1765]

But will your F150 still be around in 22 years, like your dads 1998 F-250?
Id be willing to bet it wont.
Heavier built trucks just hold up longer because they are built heavier. Comparing a truck 20 years newer is sort of ridiculous. I mean were all intelligent enough to know vehicles are performance and ratings driven. Heck in 5 years many vehicles are somewhat dated. 20 is an eternity.

Ill tell you one place theyre going backwards is repair costs. Its evermore difficult to repair DIY and its intentional.

My son still has my 1977 F-250 4x4 that I bought new for $5680.
43 years old still going strong!
Needs a second paint job though.

 

[fidowanttobe]

Probably not, nor do I care. Just not logical to keep a vehicle more than 10 years as an every day user. I dont keep mine past 3-5 anyways. Part of it is, vehicles start costing money in the 5-10 year range and second I make enough to not drive old. That 98 is a plow truck and doesnt leave the yard, nor should it.

This always surprises me. If I had vehicles that started costing me so much money in 5 years of use, that I had to do a $20,000 upgrade, . . I definitely would be changing brands. Friend of mine just stuck $3200 in the front axle of a 2017 F150 with 60k on it. I KNOW I haven't stuck that in TOTAL repairs in 20 years in my 1997 GMC and it has 245,000 !!!!

 

[rush389]

This always surprises me. If I had vehicles that started costing me so much money in 5 years of use, that I had to do a $20,000 upgrade, . . I definitely would be changing brands. Friend of mine just stuck $3200 in the front axle of a 2017 F150 with 60k on it. I KNOW I haven't stuck that in TOTAL repairs in 20 years in my 1997 GMC and it has 245,000 !!!!

that's because you bought a real truck

 

[Industrial Toys]

I predict that the cost of ownership for all high tech equipment, cars, trucks, tractors will rise as the potential of any secondary used markets disappears. All this stuff will be available a few years old at scrap prices but there won't be any takers as the cost to keep them going, or even get parts will be impossible. Maybe a short term market to harvest useable technology to keep other units going.

 

[nards444]

This always surprises me. If I had vehicles that started costing me so much money in 5 years of use, that I had to do a $20,000 upgrade, . . I definitely would be changing brands. Friend of mine just stuck $3200 in the front axle of a 2017 F150 with 60k on it. I KNOW I haven't stuck that in TOTAL repairs in 20 years in my 1997 GMC and it has 245,000 !!!!

its not really that its cost of ownership really. Tires, batteries, exhaust, brakes all wear items. I have owned all three of the big three. Im strictly talking buying new and not purchasing 4-5 year old vehicles.
With that said when you run cost of ownership of say leasing a 45-60k truck vs buying one and keeping it 7-10 years the numbers are actually very close and can work in the leases favor.

For example I have been leasing trucks for the last 6 years or so. for an average of about 475 a month. We can round up and if I average $600 a month for 10 years I will have spent $60k on trucks over ten years but had 3.3 trucks that were new. If I bought a truck that was $45k on a 7 year note which is what everybody is doing these days. My payment is $594 a month for 7 years, with interest I paid $50k for that truck over 7 years. 10 years there are sets of tires, batteries, exhaust, brakes probably a front end and thats just wear items. So over a 10 year period getting a new truck all the time is actually very little to potentially costing more to keep it. With salt use in upstate ny you just arent keeping every day drivers past 10 years or forever.

And over the last 6 years not counting gas, insurance, I have not put a dime into trucks short of oil changes and a few wiper blades. Bulbs go out they do it, see rip they fix it.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I gotta say, I enjoyed having three new p/u trucks and never as much as a bulb, battery or wiper blade for three or four years. A friend buys gently used vehicles and IMMEDIATLY his annoying little repairs start, or worse!

 

[nards444]

I predict that the cost of ownership for all high tech equipment, cars, trucks, tractors will rise as the potential of any secondary used markets disappears. All this stuff will be available a few years old at scrap prices but there won't be any takers as the cost to keep them going, or even get parts will be impossible. Maybe a short term market to harvest useable technology to keep other units going.

Nahh. Used market is huge right now with cars and trucks. In the US leased makes up like 40% now so they got used cars coming in all the time. In Canada its even higher. Theres lots of money out there too. Im not trying to political here but the left would like you to beleive everybody is poor and thats not true. Now where you might have a point is the cost to buy new is getting crazy.

I think what is more likely is like an Uber for equipment or even cars. You think about how many people drive every day to work then their car sits for the weekend or vice versa. Come the weekend would only need on car. Or need a tractor for 3 days a week. Think what we'll see is a sharing app or sharing model. You schedule the days you need cars or tractors or something of that nature and its dropped off and use it and then its picked up when done. Average car payment is is $554 in the US or 18 bucks a day. What if the sharing model you pay the same for only days you needed at the same price and or the price was reduced for the days you needed it.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Not so sure. Technology is EXPLODING and not in a good way. You used to be able to drive a 40 year old VW. Think a 2020 VW will be on the road in 2060? I think the trend is clear. ALL new stuff requires huge levels of SUPPORT that will simply disappear sooner and sooner.

 

[MossRoad]

Not so sure. Technology is EXPLODING and not in a good way. You used to be able to drive a 40 year old VW. Think a 2020 VW will be on the road in 2060? I think the trend is clear. ALL new stuff requires huge levels of SUPPORT that will simply disappear sooner and sooner.

It's not so much the mechanical stuff that goes bad, either. It's the electronics.... the sensors, the computers, the built-in LEDs in the instruments and interior lighting and buttons, etc... that stuff starts going, and it's a money pit.

That's why we got rid of our 2000 Impala after 180,000 miles and 13 years. Half the dash lights didn't work anymore, you couldn't see any buttons in the cabin at night, the anti-lock brakes started giving problems, the wipers would just come on for a couple swipes every so often, the radio would make loud deep noises even when it was off, etc...