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They're 12ga, heaviest they offer. Self tapping screws fail at about 30% with spun heads, and getting them out is a pita. I'm not thrilled with the screws I got.

Hand is already mostly stopped bleeding, clean cut, but hurts like **** every time I touch it. Bandaids aren't the most effective when you're putting on and taking off gloves.
I was just about to ask you about the screws...

On cuts... I recently did a number on my pointer finger being lazy and stupid in the shop. Worst by far I have cut myself so I can emphasize. Still not right after 3 weeks and I think it is going to take several months to get back to normal! :eek:
 
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I have those but I have #10's. A bucket of 5000. They work pretty good unless it's a double plate not pre-drilled. I have to drill down tot he last plate or it snaps the head.
 
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Self drilling/tapping screws are great when everything is perfect.
 
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Take care of that cut. Just got a sales circular with this Milwaukee tool and thought of your " There's barely any room to get the dril in there too". RW Industries has kits on sale for $299.

Milwaukee(R) M12 FUEL™ Installation Drill/Driver - YouTube

If you were a little closer I'd stop by to help and bring one of these along. Our sheet metal guys use them all the time. This is one of the smaller ones that I used when I built my shed:
 

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   / New garage time! #537  
Take care of that cut. Just got a sales circular with this Milwaukee tool and thought of your " There's barely any room to get the dril in there too". RW Industries has kits on sale for $299.

Milwaukee(R) M12 FUEL Installation Drill/Driver - YouTube

If you were a little closer I'd stop by to help and bring one of these along. Our sheet metal guys use them all the time. This is one of the smaller ones that I used when I built my shed:

That is one handy tool. Good friend had one, modified it with a 12vdc winch. He used it to build his house, then I used to build mine. Awesome especially when used in combination with my tractor pallet forks (mounted upside down for added height.
 
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I've never worked with metal in building anything like this, so this is very interesting for me. I remember you saying that you have an inspector and you are under Code for your area, so that tells me that this is acceptable framing for what you are using. It just surprises me that those self tapping screws are load bearing. I'm used to joist hangers and approved fasteners for each hole in the joist hanger.

This is really getting exciting!!!
 
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I've never worked with metal in building anything like this, so this is very interesting for me. I remember you saying that you have an inspector and you are under Code for your area, so that tells me that this is acceptable framing for what you are using. It just surprises me that those self tapping screws are load bearing. I'm used to joist hangers and approved fasteners for each hole in the joist hanger.

This is really getting exciting!!!

I suspect it's why there are so many screws. The end cap also protrudes into the c channel of the joist and sits on the bottom for added security. Finished those brackets. According to the site i'm 25lb dead load, 50lb live load, which is above the 10/40 requirement for residential buildings.

These things are blazingly hot. and they seem way above 90lb, I think they're closer to 200. We're going to weigh them tomorrow. we're wearing welding gloves while handling them and even then the heat transfers through after a few minutes. Getting them up there is another challenge. I'm on top of the scaffolding and the other guy is passing them up to me. It's painful in every sense of the word. And if my arm or leg touches them I know it immiediately, i've gotten a few burns already. I'm happy with them but I'll be happier when it's done.

We got 5 done today working from 10-4, went through 6 water bottles between the two of us. One of the walls was leaning in which was easy to discover when we were putting them in. Since the end caps are c channel but not hard 90's at the top and bottom, it's hard to get them in tight and hold them in place, so we started using ratchet straps to bring them in tight. Really made it easier.

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