Fun with Stumps

   / Fun with Stumps #31  
With backhoes you learn real quick if you want the stump out it is better to dig around the tree then push/pull to use the tree weight pop the root ball out.
A low cut stump takes forever to rot out. If cut 4-5’ high rots out many times faster. Why?

Traded a smart grapple with winch that I modified to work both ssqa or cat2 3pt hitch to arborists to take down 18 large high hazard trees around the houses. One being a red oak just back of the log house. 36” bar couldn’t cut some places thru from one side at 4” above the ground. Stumps really flare out at the bottom. Kept a mound of leaves and dirt over the stump for 9 years. Added some nitrate irrigation from time to time. It had not rotted much. Waiting to expand driveway for a building needed the stump gone. Had downsized and only had the B26 backhoe. It takes time. Finesse vs strength. Little bucket can reach where big buckets can’t. Follow roots out till you can break them. Like picking the meat out of a black walnut. Not my only project so worked at when I had time and weather. Also used my M59 FEL long bottom bucket. Didn’t have a backhoe for the M59 at the time. Eventually able to roll that tractor sized stump down hill in the woods.
Had about 40 hours in 6 weeks. Think rain during that time helped break the grip of that Tennessee red clay.

Have bought quick attach ears $225 from the dealer to make a ripper for the B26. Tried to get the good folks at BXPANDED to prototype a ripper for the B26 but no. They make them for smaller backhoes. Ripper for M59 would be sweet too.
 
   / Fun with Stumps #32  
If you like a mangled FEL. A tractor loader is even less capable of taking abuse than the backhoe. There’s a reason it’s called a loader not a stump digger.

Ah not so fast there hydro man, wrong FEL attachment on wrong job causes a mangled FEL, a stump bucket is the right attachment for stumps and rocks, not a full size bucket.
 
   / Fun with Stumps #33  
A dozer this size with that kind of set up is a good option but a grapple skidder is not far behind and given a choice of either or I'd go with grapple skidder all day long and twice on Sunday. I know I know, no one here on TBN knows what a skidder is or even heard of a grapple skidder........
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   / Fun with Stumps #34  
A low cut stump takes forever to rot out. If cut 4-5 high rots out many times faster. Why?

This has not been my experience. I cut my stumps as low as I can without hurting my chain on the chain saw. I then cross hatch the top of the stump with my circular saw in about 2" squares. And yes this is not easy on the saw blades. In about a year I can take a hammer and knock the 2" squares off of the top of the stump. Underneath the stump is well rotted and I haven't expanded a whole lot of effort into getting rid of the stump.
 
   / Fun with Stumps #35  
Red oak stumps here dont rot no matter which way they'r cut, or even when buried...
 
   / Fun with Stumps #36  
Digging stumps out with shovel and pickaxe is good training for using a backhoe. Any idiot can break handles but it takes long time to actually wear one out.
 
   / Fun with Stumps #37  
This is fun with stumps. Works better on the 4 barrel ripper but works ok on 2 barrel.

That's what I was writing about earlier but I didn't find a photo of one mounted. Makes little stumps out of big ones.

Bruce
 
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#38  
Digging stumps out with shovel and pickaxe is good training for using a backhoe. Any idiot can break handles but it takes long time to actually wear one out.

I've done that a couple times. Its a pain in the butt that I dont care to do again. :)
 
   / Fun with Stumps #39  
Ah not so fast there hydro man, wrong FEL attachment on wrong job causes a mangled FEL, a stump bucket is the right attachment for stumps and rocks, not a full size bucket.

It’s the better attachment on a poor tool. Tractor are terrible at removing stumps any way you go about it. Again it’s a loader not a digger or pryer. Now put your stump bucket on a skid steer and have at it.
 
   / Fun with Stumps #40  
I have dug a good many stumps with a 5 ton mini excavator. Some rather larger would say several over two feet in diameter of pine and hardwoods with oaks included. One thing I learned was the bigger the tree the more to dig the tree before it was cut the tree will help pop the stump out the ground. There is however one hardwood I left and covered with about 5 feet of dirt.
 

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