just when you thought you knew what stupid was

[ovrszd]

If motor vehicles were replaced with horse-drawn vehicles, deaths would probably rise.

Bruce

We have a mix here. Very dangerous.

 

[GolfAddict]

The other huge thing no one is really properly addressing or talking about yet: the massive prevalence of unhealthy people with pre-existing conditions in this country (and frankly, most other developed nations now as well).

If humans were just healthier to begin with, maybe we wouldn't be anywhere close to our current predicament. Obesity, diabetes, heart-disease, COPD, asthma, liver disease, smokers. All well recognized, severe factors for more easily contracting the virus, having a more severe and long lasting reaction, and of course, death.

Even many of the various news articles about the "normal, healthy person contracts covid-19 and spirals downwards quickly" are really just people who probably didn't KNOW about their underlying medical complications yet.

The best way to beat a virus is to have a population of healthy people to begin with. Sadly, our nation has been on a long, downward trend for decades now. $1 cheeseburgers without having to get out of your car, no grocery stores in poor neighborhoods, less time in our busy lives for proper exercise, declining health care provider access and rising insurance rates. It all adds up to, this.

Almost reads like you've come full circle to advocating for no masks, no lock downs...

 

[Bocephous]

The other huge thing no one is really properly addressing or talking about yet: the massive prevalence of unhealthy people with pre-existing conditions in this country (and frankly, most other developed nations now as well).

If humans were just healthier to begin with, maybe we wouldn't be anywhere close to our current predicament. Obesity, diabetes, heart-disease, COPD, asthma, liver disease, smokers. All well recognized, severe factors for more easily contracting the virus, having a more severe and long lasting reaction, and of course, death.

Even many of the various news articles about the "normal, healthy person contracts covid-19 and spirals downwards quickly" are really just people who probably didn't KNOW about their underlying medical complications yet.

The best way to beat a virus is to have a population of healthy people to begin with. Sadly, our nation has been on a long, downward trend for decades now. $1 cheeseburgers without having to get out of your car, no grocery stores in poor neighborhoods, less time in our busy lives for proper exercise, declining health care provider access and rising insurance rates. It all adds up to, this.

"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general." ~ Mark Rippetoe

 

[grsthegreat]

I like that! I’ll use it on my hardheaded buddy the next time he starts grumbling about masks.

This being a tractor forum, let’s see a show of hands from those that are willing to bypass or eliminate the various filters on their tractor for a few hundred hours. That would really show up the experts who designed the engines, transmissions, etc. what do they know.

The human body has its own, inborn filter system. Lungs , cilia lining, coughing to expel waste product, etc. i dont need no stinking filter

 

[RSR]

I don't know that proves a whole heck of a lot.. We all know the filters keep the engines safe and we all know that even simple dust masks keep our respiratory track safer. That really has nothing to do with keeping us safe from Covid-19, which even most "experts" will agree that our mask arent doing much to keep us safe, and maybe doing a little to keep our spit droplets inside of our own masks. But even then the simple cloth masks we make are probably doing very little compared to a N95 or a good respirator. We treat all masks the same and we know they are not. Much of it is just virtue signalling. "hey look, I am a good caring person. See, I am wearing my home made mask. ". I am looking out for your health friend. Yeah right. But all that said, I wear my mask around people, because it makes them feel better. Same reason I wear my firearm concealed instead of out in the open, even though out in the open is my right. I wear it concealed to make people "feel" better, and to keep some SOB from shooting me first in a robbery attempt. I don't want him to think I am a threat.

Actually, studies show cloth face masks do significantly reduce aerosol expiration.

See
Low-cost measurement of facemask efficacy for filtering expelled droplets during speech | Science Advances. (scroll to figure 3).

A 60%+ reduction is significant.

If you want a wealth of information from the Nation's preeminent aerosol scientist, look up Linsey Marr from Virginia Tech on Twitter. She has a wealth of easily-digestible information.

 

[RSR]

The human body has its own, inborn filter system. Lungs , cilia lining, coughing to expel waste product, etc. i dont need no stinking filter

Yeah, the body does a great job of filtering out small particles. That's why smoking cigarettes is so safe and has no health consequences ...

 

[grsthegreat]

Yeah, the body does a great job of filtering out small particles. That's why smoking cigarettes is so safe and has no health consequences ...

Oh my god......your nuts

 

[grsthegreat]

Im out of here.....ive had enough of you sheep

 

[RSR]

I love numbers like these!



You know the average longevity for an American male is about 69 years.
The average age of mortality for this CCP flu is a bit over 80 years. I'm thinking I might try to catch this Wuhan pneumonia and increase my odds.

Whomever put that chart together needs to go back and take a course on statistics. The chance of not dying is not 99.6%.

As a thought exercise, think of what numbers will look like in a month. They will go up. Which means, according to your numbers, the risk of dying goes up too. That's why things like case mortality are looked at.

If 100% of people are infected, then, according to those number 2.4% of the population will die.

But hey, that's only about 8 million people in the US.

So yeah, let's strive for herd immunity ... Who needs old people anyway? They just drain precious resources from the federal government.

 

[RSR]

Oh my god......your nuts

I'm not sure what to make of your response.

Mine was sarcastic. Maybe yours was too. If you don't think smoking causes health problems, I'm seriously concerned.