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My transformer is on the ground 150 or so from the house. No noise at all. Meter is on the house.
Yes, another electrical question. Oh, and propane too.
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For the tank, be careful of easements from whoever owns the road. Think it's 25 feet or so from centerline of road where I am, might be off a bit though, don;t have drawings with me.
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Diggin It
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Y'all priced copper tubing coils lately? 1/2" x 100' is showing about $1.50' or more for me at the big box stores. Maybe I can find but less, but I doubt it.
I'm looking at some yellow plastic tubing made for gas direct burial too. The pipe is cheap enough but they make their money on the fittings and risers I guess. The tube can go inside conduit too for extra protection, but I don't think copper can.
I'm looking at some yellow plastic tubing made for gas direct burial too. The pipe is cheap enough but they make their money on the fittings and risers I guess. The tube can go inside conduit too for extra protection, but I don't think copper can.
crazyal
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Around here everything up to the meter is theirs. You can dig the trenches and lay the conduit but they pull the wire. As for voltage drop, that shouldn't be a problem as long as the correct gauge wire is used. I think the code allows up to 3% voltage drop on a service entrance. I know when I built my house I could have used 4/0 aluminum wire but opted for 350mcm. The 4/0 was slightly over 3% loss (but who ever actually draws 200 amps on 200 amp service?) switching to 350 MCM dropped it down to about 2%. Plenty of voltage drop calculators on line. The best thing about voltage drop and buried cable is the temperature is very stable. Temperature of the wire matters just like length of the run.
grsthegreat
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copper anything is nuts. Mind if i ask, whats the copper tubing for. The plastic gas pipe that home depot sells is crap compared to the stuff my heating contractor uses. The plastic pipe that propane company uses up here in Idaho is supplied by the propane company. We only supply trench, they supply everything else up to house regulator.
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Diggin It
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Propane if I decide to move the tank.
This stuff? https://www.homedepot.com/p/HOME-FL...2-1-2-in-Meter-Risers-18-429440-005/311074240
grsthegreat
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yes, that stuff. Has compression ends. The real stuff is press on, but you get 1 chance to get it right. Ive compared quality and home depots sucks. I dont cheap out on gas stuff. I have seen copper pipe used on propane many years ago, but i thought that was a thing of the past.
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Diggin It
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Yeah, I wondered about the special compression ends. What does the contractor use? Does it need special tools? Copper tubing is too high right now from what I see unless I can find another source. I have copper tubing in use now and that's what the LP company mentioned this morning when I called them. Hmmm, wonder if they can sell it?
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Diggin It
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That's freakin' insane. $2.66' insane.
And I need 90-100' with no breaks/splices/couplings.
grsthegreat
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The fittings they use slip on, and lock inplace. You absolutely cannot remove them after slipped together. 1 man can install the 1/2” to 3/4” fittings, but on the larger 1-1/4” ones we use for generators they use 2 man crew. Fittings are not cheap. They have special reaming tools and prep tools prior to fitting install. The only copper lines ive seen up here are on systems installed up thru the 1970’s and on fuel oil jobs. The poly is so much cheaper to install. The stuff propane and heating contractors use dont even need shading with sand before backfilling. Very thick pipe.
