rcio7684
Bronze Member
I live in the Finger Lakes region of N.Y. (rural Bristol Hills) where we have about 100" of snowfall per year. I have been researching the purchase of a SCUT since early August for primarily mowing and snow blowing. I have 2 acres of hilly land, of which I mow about 1.25 acres. My driveway is 300' long and fairly steep, so 4WD was important as my current John Deere X500 struggled at times snow blowing heavy wet snow.
I had narrowed my list of SCUTS to the Kubota BX2380, Massey Ferguson GC1723 and the Kioti CS2210 all with a mid mount mower and front snow blower (I also priced out the John Deere 1025, the Mahindra Emax S, LS MT122 and Yanmar SA221). After receiving quotes from numerous dealers on all three makes, I had it down to the Kioti CS2210 the Kubota BX2380 and in distant third, the Massey GC1723. The best price I got on the Kubota was $15,411, the Massey $15,817 and the Kioti $14,995 (a local dealer sells both Massey and Kioti and the lowest quotes were from it). I test drove the Kubota, which was a nice machine, but due to the lack of inventory, I was unable to drive the Kioti to compare, as my local dealer had none in stock.
I waited until this past Thursday (2 months after my initial contact with the dealer) to drive the Kioti when one finally arrived. I was impressed with the machine and drove it up and down some steep hills similar to my property. The CS handled it well and is overall quite a step up from my X500. The sales manager asked me if I wanted to drive the Massey, but I declined as I was set on the Kioti. We negotiated the price and he quoted me $14,000, which I liked, so he put it on hold for me. I then asked him about the availability of the snowblower and he said he had none in stock, but an order had been placed for one. I asked when it would be arriving and he said he had no definite time. He called his Kioti sales rep while I was there, but was unable to reach him.
Stopping by the dealership today (Sat), the sales manager said he had gotten a hold of his rep yesterday, but no availability date was given as to when a snow blower would arrive. The sales manager tried to contact the Kioti sales rep several more times this morning, but he got bupkis.
I said I wanted to purchase the CS2210, but needed to know what he thought of the chances of getting the snow blower by November, when winter usually starts around here. He kind of made a "Gheesh" sound, which told me all I needed to know, as it didn't look promising. The sales manager then said since the rep hadn't called him back, it wasn't a good sign. With the current state of the world, I thought it would be best to switch gears, so I asked him about the Massey. He said he had everything in stock (deck and snow blower), went over the entire tractor with me and pointed out a few differences from the Kioti. I drove it around the place, up and down the hills realizing it is also a nice tractor, although I didn't notice any significant difference from the Kioti. It does have better joystick placement, more metal parts and a tilt steering wheel. I have friends who are farmers and having purchased tractors from this dealership, they have nothing but good things to say about them, plus the dealership is fairly close to my home. The sales manager was extremely helpful and cordial, plus was willing to negotiate. (He also said sales had been strong all summer, as they currently are. Interestingly there was a gentleman in speaking with him as I waited today, who was interested in buying the Kioti CS2210 that he had on hold for me)
Having everything in stock on the GC1723 changed my mind about buying the Kioti (a bird in the hand thing), so after some negotiations I was able to get it for $14,500, down from the original quote of $15,817. I don't know if this is a good deal, but from all the quotes I got on all the various brands, it was significantly lower than everything but the Kioti, so I am happy!
It will be delivered next Friday and I look forward to owning my first tractor! I thought I was going to go Orange, but ended up seeing Red.
I had narrowed my list of SCUTS to the Kubota BX2380, Massey Ferguson GC1723 and the Kioti CS2210 all with a mid mount mower and front snow blower (I also priced out the John Deere 1025, the Mahindra Emax S, LS MT122 and Yanmar SA221). After receiving quotes from numerous dealers on all three makes, I had it down to the Kioti CS2210 the Kubota BX2380 and in distant third, the Massey GC1723. The best price I got on the Kubota was $15,411, the Massey $15,817 and the Kioti $14,995 (a local dealer sells both Massey and Kioti and the lowest quotes were from it). I test drove the Kubota, which was a nice machine, but due to the lack of inventory, I was unable to drive the Kioti to compare, as my local dealer had none in stock.
I waited until this past Thursday (2 months after my initial contact with the dealer) to drive the Kioti when one finally arrived. I was impressed with the machine and drove it up and down some steep hills similar to my property. The CS handled it well and is overall quite a step up from my X500. The sales manager asked me if I wanted to drive the Massey, but I declined as I was set on the Kioti. We negotiated the price and he quoted me $14,000, which I liked, so he put it on hold for me. I then asked him about the availability of the snowblower and he said he had none in stock, but an order had been placed for one. I asked when it would be arriving and he said he had no definite time. He called his Kioti sales rep while I was there, but was unable to reach him.
Stopping by the dealership today (Sat), the sales manager said he had gotten a hold of his rep yesterday, but no availability date was given as to when a snow blower would arrive. The sales manager tried to contact the Kioti sales rep several more times this morning, but he got bupkis.
I said I wanted to purchase the CS2210, but needed to know what he thought of the chances of getting the snow blower by November, when winter usually starts around here. He kind of made a "Gheesh" sound, which told me all I needed to know, as it didn't look promising. The sales manager then said since the rep hadn't called him back, it wasn't a good sign. With the current state of the world, I thought it would be best to switch gears, so I asked him about the Massey. He said he had everything in stock (deck and snow blower), went over the entire tractor with me and pointed out a few differences from the Kioti. I drove it around the place, up and down the hills realizing it is also a nice tractor, although I didn't notice any significant difference from the Kioti. It does have better joystick placement, more metal parts and a tilt steering wheel. I have friends who are farmers and having purchased tractors from this dealership, they have nothing but good things to say about them, plus the dealership is fairly close to my home. The sales manager was extremely helpful and cordial, plus was willing to negotiate. (He also said sales had been strong all summer, as they currently are. Interestingly there was a gentleman in speaking with him as I waited today, who was interested in buying the Kioti CS2210 that he had on hold for me)
Having everything in stock on the GC1723 changed my mind about buying the Kioti (a bird in the hand thing), so after some negotiations I was able to get it for $14,500, down from the original quote of $15,817. I don't know if this is a good deal, but from all the quotes I got on all the various brands, it was significantly lower than everything but the Kioti, so I am happy!
It will be delivered next Friday and I look forward to owning my first tractor! I thought I was going to go Orange, but ended up seeing Red.
