Winches TN75 Front mount winch

[Rustyiron]

Don't mind SR, if you don't have exactly what he's using for any given task, you're an idiot and using sub par junk.
Just an old sour puss with little to nothing to add to the conversation other than self promotion.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Don't mind SR, if you don't have exactly what he's using for any given task, you're an idiot and using sub par junk.
Just an old sour puss with little to nothing to add to the conversation other than self promotion.

Wow, that just isn't true...

What part of my post wasn't the truth???

SR

 

[Rustyiron]

Rob it's just that a lot of guys here are not of a long agricultural background (all kinds of equipment sitting around) and are simply trying to get a given task done or done easier WITH WHAT THEY HAVE or what they can afford, and even what they have room to store in their suburban backyard. There's always a better "tool" for the job for 99% of everyone. You just seem to be too blunt to often and not that you're wrong, a little understanding of the posters enthusiasm and excitement that caused him to make a post in the first place would be more helpful. :thumbsup:

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Rob it's just that a lot of guys here are not of a long agricultural background (all kinds of equipment sitting around) and are simply trying to get a given task done or done easier WITH WHAT THEY HAVE or what they can afford, and even what they have room to store in their suburban backyard. There's always a better "tool" for the job for 99% of everyone. You just seem to be too blunt to often and not that you're wrong, a little understanding of the posters enthusiasm and excitement that caused him to make a post in the first place would be more helpful. :thumbsup:

Geeeze Rusty, I had no idea that you were so sensitive... Sorry buddy, but many times I have no time to baby sit your feelings, so I just get to the point and tell it the way it is... It just may keep that person from having to buy something twice, like I have had to in my past. I'd rather have someone tell me what I'm doing wrong now, than have to live it later.

Like you said, I didn't say anything that wasn't the truth and I never mentioned anything that I own or use, I only stated possible future problems, so you being the sensitive type, maybe you should help out your blood pressure, by from now on, not reading any more of my post... lol

SR

 

[jimglassford]

Having reviewed the posts, and not knowing either of you, Rusty Iron, you were so off base with your retaliatory response to another posters input. I read Sawyer's input with no animosity or belittlement of the original poster at all. He was just someone with experience offering input.

 

[ptsg]

Having reviewed the posts, and not knowing either of you, Rusty Iron, you were so off base with your retaliatory response to another posters input. I read Sawyer's input with no animosity or belittlement of the original poster at all. He was just someone with experience offering input.

Well, maybe not on this thread in particular, but if you go through Rob's posts, you may figure quite fast why Rusty said what he said. Rusty was actually spot on on both of his posts.

 

[jimglassford]

Hello All
I have a wireless remote 10000 lb winch on a 2" hitch that I can use on my truck and on the rear of my tractor (3PT hitch 2" receiver). I am planning on building a 2" receiver on the front of my TN75 NH tractor for dragging out logs in the woods. My 2 questions are, am I in danger of splitting the tractor in half by pulling from the front and secondly should I upgrade my alternator (currently 45A) ? I am not planning on working this very hard, but will come in handy to drag in those logs from a farther distance. There is plenty of clearance between winch and FEL for this install.

The first part of your question is very difficult to answer. I would be surprised if there are any real tractor engineers on this web site that have design experience with the TN75 tractor. All you will get is arm chair guesses. I would be concerned anytime I would be using a piece of equipment other than its intended design parameters. To me, a 10,000 Lb winch seems like a lot of pulling force. When it is on the 3 point hitch, are the arms capable of 10,000 Lbs?

Maybe a better question to ask is has anyone damaged any part of their tractor by installing a winch and any advice on how they would have corrected the installation. In theory, I wonder what would be the weak link. Will the winch stall first, the cable break or will the tractor just skid toward the log. Would you anchor the tractor to a stationary object to keep the tractor from moving? All I can say is be careful and make sure all of the bolts are tight on the tractor. If you think you are stressing the structure of the tractor, check bolts again. Maybe the first sign will be some stretch in a bolt and you will see it is not snug.

The second part about alternator and battery needs, I would use it for a while and see if you are limited in either capacity before you go through the expense of upgrading.

 

[oosik]

SR - post#8. You are dead nuts on there, boy. And I can expand on your comments. For 55 years I've had 4WD vehicles with electric winches. Some had pretty fast uptake - some, not so much. One thing in common with all electric winches. HEAT. Hot motors; hot wiring; hot, near boiling batteries. A 10,000# winch pulling near max load will draw 750+ amps.

There is no such thing as an alternator that can keep up with the "draw/demand" that a 10,000# winch demands. The demand is met by using a battery.

750 amp draw is like pulling a telephone pole thru a 2" knot hole. Something will get hot, REALLY HOT & really quick.

I've had batteries explode - I've had the plastic coating on really HD wiring melt right off the wires.

If it were me. 150 feet of 3/8" steel cable and prepare to drag the logs. Hook to the drawbar - it's the part of a tractor that's designed to be used in that manner.

Most electric winches today come with - 80 or 100 or even 120 feet of cable. If the log is too heavy for the tractor to drag - LOOK OUT when you back chain the tractor to a tree and turn on the winch to pull the log. Something has to give ..............

 

[Sawyer Rob]

SR - post#8. You are dead nuts on there, boy. And I can expand on your comments. For 55 years I've had 4WD vehicles with electric winches. Some had pretty fast uptake - some, not so much. One thing in common with all electric winches. HEAT. Hot motors; hot wiring; hot, near boiling batteries. A 10,000# winch pulling near max load will draw 750+ amps.

There is no such thing as an alternator that can keep up with the "draw/demand" that a 10,000# winch demands. The demand is met by using a battery.

750 amp draw is like pulling a telephone pole thru a 2" knot hole. Something will get hot, REALLY HOT & really quick.

I've had batteries explode - I've had the plastic coating on really HD wiring melt right off the wires.

If it were me. 150 feet of 3/8" steel cable and prepare to drag the logs. Hook to the drawbar - it's the part of a tractor that's designed to be used in that manner.

Most electric winches today come with - 80 or 100 or even 120 feet of cable. If the log is too heavy for the tractor to drag - LOOK OUT when you back chain the tractor to a tree and turn on the winch to pull the log. Something has to give ..............

Don't you know you aren't suppose to say things like that!!! You need to read #11 Rustys post above!!

You old sour puss, you've added nothing to the conversation!! LOL LOL

SR

 

[oosik]

Yes - I saw #11 & #13. Butt the truth is the truth. I normally don't schmooze somebody into a difficult situation. I see you don't either. Grin, grin ..........