Has anyone delt with SG Equipment in Dundee OR?

   / Has anyone delt with SG Equipment in Dundee OR? #11  
   / Has anyone delt with SG Equipment in Dundee OR? #12  
I know a guy named Steve, last name Elsner, that sells used tractors and implements in Dundee. He gets a lot of stuff from a local dealer that doesn’t keep trade ins due to space limitations. He also wheels and deals with private owners. Does mostly sub compact class tractors. His main job is in heavy construction.

I have bought and sold with him, never had any problems with anything I bought from him.

That's definitely the Steve I talked to. Apart from the Vtek loader there's nothing to hint it's a VN unit. Hours are in the mid hundreds. The 1610 I picked up today shifts smoothly and started on a dime even in the 30deg temp today, I'm pleased so far.
 
   / Has anyone delt with SG Equipment in Dundee OR? #13  
That's definitely the Steve I talked to. Apart from the Vtek loader there's nothing to hint it's a VN unit. Hours are in the mid hundreds. The 1610 I picked up today shifts smoothly and started on a dime even in the 30deg temp today, I'm pleased so far.
that's the thing, nothing on a VN tractor says Made in Vietnam or anything like that. The just looks like a repainted tractor. Work looks good even with closer inspection. Its little things that you would notice.

But there is a good chance these are tractors that have been here and sold before and he has got them and redone them or someone he got them from redid them or just took care of them. Like i said unless he called the big VN importers and buys loaders to put on his used machines or machines he works over....if it has a Vtek or v2 loader or Bulldog loader is a VN tractor. That said there are a few folks who have bought used v2 loaders from a junked tractor or an owner that just sold it and put it on their original or Frederick's restored yanmar. They make decent loaders, nothing wrong with them other than people have said that there non standard cylinders.
 
   / Has anyone delt with SG Equipment in Dundee OR? #14  
To reassure HaltCatchFire - Not all VN refurbished Yanmars are bad. It's more that it's blind luck if they did a good job, or, they couldn't find some component so they salvaged that part off something else. Or had some kid create the unavailable part with a file. Worst case, you might have to do some final QC work yourself to get it to match specs.

If everything checks out ok in the first 50 hours or so, then you have a Yanmar at least as good as one in 30 year old original condition. Buying anything that old has some random luck as part of the package. Budget a little money for final QC and don't worry about it. They are great tractors.
 
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To reassure HaltCatchFire - Not all VN refurbished Yanmars are bad. It's more that it's blind luck if they did a good job, or, they couldn't find some component so they salvaged that part off something else. Or had some kid create the unavailable part with a file. Worst case, you might have to do some final QC work yourself to get it to match specs.

If everything checks out ok in the first 50 hours or so, then you have a Yanmar at least as good as one in 30 year old original condition. Buying anything that old has some random luck as part of the package. Budget a little money for final QC and don't worry about it. They are great tractors.

i would second this statement. That's where i was going that it could be a VN tractor that was sold and this guy got it and went back over it getting it ready to sell. This would match up with the hundreds of hours on the meter. Also that if it had that many hours on it, it runs, doesn't smoke bad, knock or leak its probably fine.

I myself have a VN tractor. It has served me well for 10 years, they do exist and work fine. Its just the squeaky wheel gets the attention on the internet. Its also a gamble sometimes.
 
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Any more input on Steve?
He's advertising a lot on Facebook.
He also started a new company 2 years ago named West Coast Tractors:
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_or/151251999

Just go to the CList Portland city location. Type in Yanmar, his machines pop up.

portland for sale "yanmar" - craigslist



Wow, that's one advantage living on the left coast, lots of good machinery on the cheap. All those Yanmar tillers !!!! DROOL ... :eek: I can't find even a used working PTO tiller out my way for less than $1,800 !!! New is $2,000 and up.
 
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... one advantage living on the left coast, lots of good machinery on the cheap. All those Yanmar tillers !!!! DROOL ... :eek: I can't find even a used working PTO tiller out my way for less than $1,800 !!! New is $2,000 and up.
They're making a killing on those tillers! The salvage yards in Japan assume everybody is like Japan and they wouldn't sell a tractor without the tiller that has been on it since new. Lots more tillers were shipped over here with VN refurb tractors, than the number of US customers who wanted a tiller. Tractor Ernie posted that he took a load of junk tillers to the dump as he wound down his Oregon operation. :eek:

I went to the VN import wholesaler in Sacramento in about 2008 and asked for their cheapest tiller. How about $200 with a set of new tines included. Its a RS1400. Its decals show it is intended for YM2000 so its the matched tiller for my YM240.

Per someone's advice on here I replaced the watery oil and the bearing and seal at the non-driven end of the tine axle. As suggested, the bearing was rusted and in bad shape. Never did install the tines because it tills fine with the worn ones.

I didn't realize it at the time but that importer was desperate to sell anything. They were going broke taking back warranty returns from the dealers they had supplied. Lee, the manager, had gone home to VN to plead for better quality from this family-run factory but the stuff they had already sold was killing them. I had bought several parts there that I needed to refurbish the YM240, headlights and the original fuel filter assembly for example, salvaged off their warranty returns parked out back. They folded a while after I bought the tiller. They were honest, they honored their warranties, and it buried them.

Here's a thread that has pictures of the setup decals on various Yanmar tillers. And one question I asked in that thread is now resolved, I found that the depth-control wheels in back need to have the part from the pivot down to the axle (like one side of a bicycle fork) on the outer, not inner, side for the wheels to track properly. This is counter-intuitive because that's the part that gouges my orchard trees if I get too close.

Photos - I bought the farthest green one.

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Photo - trying PTO 540 rpm then the YM240's 1000 rpm. The higher speed turns the dirt into fine dust. 540 is better if you're not in a rice paddy.

The little YM186D is more maneuverable but this RS1400 is more that it wants. It will stall when I cross-till and the front tires climb out of soft ground onto firm ground with the tiller down.
 
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Hey figured I'd chime in again since it's getting bumped. The 1610D I bought from Steve ran 100% flawlessly for two years, but I ended up having to sell it due to very nearly tipping a few times. Hilly land, tall tractor, didn't want to go full Verleih-Nix on that machine, you know the drill :). It was truly a great machine though. Having nearly as much fun with an orange BX23S now...
 
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They're making a killing on those tillers! The salvage yards in Japan assume everybody is like Japan and they wouldn't sell a tractor without the tiller that has been on it since new. Lots more tillers were shipped over here with VN refurb tractors, than the number of US customers who wanted a tiller. Tractor Ernie posted that he took a load of junk tillers to the dump as he wound down his Oregon operation. :eek:

I went to the VN import wholesaler in Sacramento in about 2008 and asked for their cheapest tiller. How about $200 with a set of new tines included. Its a RS1400. Its decals show it is intended for YM2000 so its the matched tiller for my YM240.

How about a nice treat. See attached. From the Yanmar Tractor Owners Group on GroupsIO. :thumbsup:

Between the 2 docs, you should have enough tiller parts help overall. :D
 

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