Honesty

[Steppenwolfe]

TRUTH is all that matters. There is no power on earth beyond that of white light and truth.

I believe I know what "the" truth is; yet on Sunday morning preacher tv I find myself not believing a word they say... :confused3:

 

[MossRoad]

Kind of at a crossroads myself...

Truth, Honesty, Straight Talk all goes out the window when Dementia/Alzheimer is in the mix...

The truth can set off a firestorm of emotions ranging from anxiety to panic to being downright cruel.

Those that specialize in memory care say it does no good to be truthful if the truth inflicts unnecessary harm, suffering or pain.

What do you tell a Alzheimer patient waiting at the window for their Mom and Dad to arrive knowing they have passed away 30+ years ago???

Being truthful and saying they are deceased and are never coming only makes matters worse as opposed to a lie saying not today but soon???

As mentioned this has been the hardest adjustment of all... especially in the era of Covid...

You're doing the right thing. :thumbsup:

 

[Industrial Toys]

Funny world we live in. I believe in telling the truth as best I can. Yet circumstances dictate that's not alway in your best interests either because you can get taken advantage of by persons and sysems not invested in that mind set.

 

[SouthernSky]

When I was a kid, a teacher told me that if anyone ever said, “To be honest with you, ...” that they were lying.

It’s stuck in my head enough I still consciously say, “To be perfectly candid, ...”

 

[CobyRupert]

Some historical context:

The aphorism is first recorded in Greek, as τὸν τεθνηκóτα μὴ κακολογεῖν (tòn tethnekóta mè kakologeîn , "Do not speak ill of the dead"), attributed to Chilon of Sparta (ca. 600 BC) by Diogenes Laërtius.

In Latin, the full sentence “De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est” translates to "Of the dead nothing but good is to be said".

Speaking ill of the dead reminds me of MMA cage fights when a guy gets knocked out and his opponent jumps on him and continues to rain haymakers on the defenseless limp body (until the referee hopefully stops him): It’s just ain’t sporting.

 

[Frankenkubota]

History, as it has traditionally been written, has it's own agenda... to perpetrate the cause of the writer.

The government invents history. I just got a book titled........Lies My Teachers Told Me. Not only lies of omissions but blatant lies, period. The government is evil.

Every 20 years or so another generation of impressionable, optimistic, enthusiastic, ignorant young people come along and swallow the same BS, as long as it comes with benefits. By the time you get old you realize it was nothing but lies but no one cares what an old man thinks. The government is too ashamed by what they did to tell the truth, and then all that pesky litigation if you admit anything!

 

[Hay Dude]

Some historical context:

The aphorism is first recorded in Greek, as τὸν τεθνηκóτα μὴ κακολογεῖν (tòn tethnekóta mè kakologeîn , "Do not speak ill of the dead"), attributed to Chilon of Sparta (ca. 600 BC) by Diogenes Laërtius.

In Latin, the full sentence “De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est” translates to "Of the dead nothing but good is to be said".

Speaking ill of the dead reminds me of MMA cage fights when a guy gets knocked out and his opponent jumps on him and continues to rain haymakers on the defenseless limp body (until the referee hopefully stops him): It’s just ain’t sporting.

Agree. It’s just legal violence. I was a collegiate boxer and looking back on it, it was gross. Seeing up close the look in a guys eyes as you finish him off still haunts me today. And waking up the next day with a concussion after drinking off a loss is not going to reward me later in my older years.
I think regular college and Olympic wrestling is fine. Once its over its ended quickly.
That MMA stuff is just too violent. Boxing aint far behind. A lot depends on the ref.

 

[Hay Dude]

The government invents history. I just got a book titled........Lies My Teachers Told Me. Not only lies of omissions but blatant lies, period. The government is evil.

Every 20 years or so another generation of impressionable, optimistic, enthusiastic, ignorant young people come along and swallow the same BS, as long as it comes with benefits. By the time you get old you realize it was nothing but lies but no one cares what an old man thinks. The government is too ashamed by what they did to tell the truth, and then all that pesky litigation if you admit anything!

Some governments did much worse things than other governments, too.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Some historical context:

The aphorism is first recorded in Greek, as τὸν τεθνηκóτα μὴ κακολογεῖν (tòn tethnekóta mè kakologeîn , "Do not speak ill of the dead"), attributed to Chilon of Sparta (ca. 600 BC) by Diogenes Laërtius.

In Latin, the full sentence “De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est” translates to "Of the dead nothing but good is to be said".

Speaking ill of the dead reminds me of MMA cage fights when a guy gets knocked out and his opponent jumps on him and continues to rain haymakers on the defenseless limp body (until the referee hopefully stops him): It’s just ain’t sporting.

And then there's the slant that Shakespeare puts on it:

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;

I will say this; I consider myself an honest person, but sometimes it's best to just keep your mouth shut. I dislike confrontation, and there must be something in it to make my life better or else I avoid it. Nobody ever wins a piss fight with a skunk.
So let it be with Caesar.

 

[MoKelly]

And then there's the slant that Shakespeare puts on it:

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;

I will say this; I consider myself an honest person, but sometimes it's best to just keep your mouth shut. I dislike confrontation, and there must be something in it to make my life better or else I avoid it. Nobody ever wins a piss fight with a skunk.
So let it be with Caesar.

“But Brutus says he was ambitious

And Brutus is an honorable man”

That whole speech was a misdirection (not exactly honest) designed to get the crowd to revolt against Ceasar’s killers.

It worked.

MoKelly