Tires Frozen tanks frozen tires?

   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #21  
On freezing of water.

As water freezes it expands as most know.
But did U know as it gets real cold it contracts?*
I live by the water in cold Quebec and have always observed the lake and river ice cracking occasionally with a loud noise.
Like we don't need a thermometer to know when to add another layer of clothing.

With heavy snow load over the lake/river ice those cracks let water up onto the ice and create a slushy surface.

*Once we got a fast deep cold snap before I could drain a clients water system.
Now usually that would cause toilets and P traps to fracture but to my surprise there was no damage at all to the clients plumbing.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #22  
Western NY, you probably have, like here a different blend of Diesel for Winter. In Eastern Ontario, I've been told gas stations switch blend in November. Texas, I would doubt they do.

They switch blends here as well but I fill my storage tank every spring so I would guess I'm using a summer blend all year and getting away with it.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #23  
The diesel fuel will be fine the paraffin can start to precipitate out as high as 40F normally it needs to be 30F or less.
Once your fuel warms up especially to 50F+ it will be fine.
As others have mentioned if your fuel bowl or filter had water in it, it may have sustained some damage, it certainly wouldn't hurt to change the filter.
With tires that are filled with plain water or too weak of an anti-freeze concentration if you do not move the tractor
normally no damage will occur.
However tubeless tires have been known to get chewed up internally sometimes to the point of failure if rotated and run when frozen or ice filled.
Tube type tire if rotated or run while even just partly froze quite often will tear the tubes.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #24  
I used my tractor the past two days. Water filled rears with no antifreeze. I didn't see any issues and I don't think they were frozen yet.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #25  
I used my tractor the past two days. Water filled rears with no antifreeze. I didn't see any issues and I don't think they were frozen yet.

It takes quite a while for the amount of water normally in tractor tires to freeze hard enough to become an issue.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #26  
On freezing of water.

As water freezes it expands as most know.
But did U know as it gets real cold it contracts?*
I live by the water in cold Quebec and have always observed the lake and river ice cracking occasionally with a loud noise.
Like we don't need a thermometer to know when to add another layer of clothing.

With heavy snow load over the lake/river ice those cracks let water up onto the ice and create a slushy surface.

*Once we got a fast deep cold snap before I could drain a clients water system.
Now usually that would cause toilets and P traps to fracture but to my surprise there was no damage at all to the clients plumbing.

One thing that I miss about living near a lake is the sound of it making ice. There's nothing like going to sleep to that sound on a cold, clear night.

It's too bad that the OP hasn't checked back in to let us know what happened. He may not have been back up to check on it, but with 5 posts in 9 years he isn't he most prolific poster.

That doesn't make him a BAD person though... :D
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires?
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#27  
So no one has ever froze a tire? It’s been above freezing now for a week, hoping all is well when I get to the ranch.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #28  
Yes, I致e had frozen tires. First tractor I ever owned, a John Deere LA. Probably 45 or more years ago. Made a bulge where the ice was which traveled around with the tire instead of staying in place as unfrozen liquid does. Made for a lumpy, uncomfortable ride, which I cut short, because I was worried about damaging the tires. Everything back to normal once thawed.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #29  
Well I had heard of tire damage but all I have seen is tube damage but,
my brother just bought a used tractor that came from down south.
He had to order new tires as they had been filled with water and it ruined one tire.
Actually tore the sidewall internally so that the damage was visible externally.
I haven't seen the tractor yet as when it gets hauled up here it's going straight to the tire shop.
Two new tires and rims, the rims because he is changing the tire size to the 20.8 over the 18.4
that were on it, $4000 for two radials and rims.
It's a JD4430 cabed, going to have to work on the AC from what I hear.

So yes tire damage can occur.
 
   / Frozen tanks frozen tires? #30  
It would need to be sustained cold to completely freeze a tire solid.
In all probability an ice 'cage' would form first and driving would break that up fairly soon.
The more you drove the warmer the warmer would get making the contents slushy.
We in the cold zones know that moving water does not freeze as witnessed on many a lake or river at below freezing temps.
 

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