Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow

   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #121  
Such a speech could prove that you knew that you were about to undertake something that might cause harm or damage.

How would that differ from a written waiver? Doctors, for example, do it every day prior to procedures.
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #122  
Two things that immediately jump into my mind
Dr.s are trained, licensed, and insured to practice the procedure.
Dr.s waiver has been scrupulously reviewed by lawyers (who coincidently are trained, licensed, and insured ;) ).
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #123  
Two things that immediately jump into my mind
Dr.s are trained, licensed, and insured to practice the procedure.
Dr.s waiver has been scrupulously reviewed by lawyers (who coincidently are trained, licensed, and insured ;) ).

They also pay buko bucks for malpractice insurance. IT is from another country though, things may be different there.
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #124  
There are several discussions on this forum talking about whether or not to help someone stuck in a ditch. I keep a tow rope in my truck for this, but the more I see/hear about the lawsuits, the more I'm questioning it. I always have a camera in my truck and do wonder if a video release of liability would do much of anything. I have no tolerance for sue happy people. One idiot ruins it for the rest.
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #125  
There are several discussions on this forum talking about whether or not to help someone stuck in a ditch. I keep a tow rope in my truck for this, but the more I see/hear about the lawsuits, the more I'm questioning it. I always have a camera in my truck and do wonder if a video release of liability would do much of anything. I have no tolerance for sue happy people. One idiot ruins it for the rest.
As John_mc said, the other issue is that if they submit an insurance claim and their insurance company thinks that you damaged their car in pulling it out (ie: your hook comes out and rips up the radiator, condensor, lower bumper skirt, etc) they will want you to pay them and the car owner has no say in the matter.

Aaron Z
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #126  
Kind of like posting a sign on your property indicating danger. Now it's clear, you knew a danger existed.

Now, there is damage to your stuff. A Menonite (Tenant) farmer ploughing our fields in a Blizzard got stuck and came knocking on my door. I left my warm office, started a stone cold tractor, broke two chains and got him unstuck, all for a THANK YOU.
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #127  
As a rural LEO, I saw a lot of exciting recoveries and even more attempted recoveries. It was pretty common to add a stuck vehicle, not remove them. When certain roads got muddy, it got really exciting. Some people are just clueless. It’s amazing how many people (usually with a F-250/2500 series pickup with a Diesel engine) don’t understand basic physics, or math.
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #128  
You see it with the pros on you tube videos too. Every man should be taught basic physics.
 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #129  
This'll get you out

Specifications
Mass M88/M88A1: 50.8 t (112,000 lb)
M88A2: 63.5 t (140,000 lb)
Length 27.13 ft (8.27 m)
Width 11.25 ft (3.43 m)
Height 10.25 ft (3.12 m)
Crew 3
Armor Hull and cab armored to protect against small-arms fire up to 30mm direct fire weapons
Main
armament
M2 .50 cal heavy MG with 1,300 rounds
Engine ç*†88/M88A1: Continental (now L-3 CPS) AVDS-1790-2DR V12, air-cooled Twin-turbo diesel engine
ç*†88A2: Continental AVDS-1790-8CR, V12 air-cooled Twin-turbo diesel engine
M88/M88A1: 750 hp (560 kW)
M88A2: 1,050 hp (780 kW)
Transmission Twin Disc XT-1410-5A cross-drive (3 speed forward, 1 speed reverse)
Suspension Torsion bar suspension
Ground clearance 17 in (0.43 m)
Operational
range
M88/M88A1: 450 km (280 mi)
M88A2: 322 km (200 mi)
Maximum speed M88/M88A1: 42 km/h (26 mph)
M88A2: 48 km/h (30 mph)

 
   / Pulling Vehicles out of a Ditch in the Snow #130  
As a rural LEO, I saw a lot of exciting recoveries and even more attempted recoveries. It was pretty common to add a stuck vehicle, not remove them. When certain roads got muddy, it got really exciting. Some people are just clueless. It’s amazing how many people (usually with a F-250/2500 series pickup with a Diesel engine) don’t understand basic physics, or math.

I don’t see many successful vehicle to vehicle recovery’s especially off road. If the first vehicle can’t go usually the second one can’t move them both.
 

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