Hey cut/scut people with with snow pushers, tell me stuff

[GeneV]

Bridge, that's a nice snow box you got. I looked up land pride, looks like the smallest one they got is a 5 footer.

Hey guys, the shoes on your pushers, are they just steel or are they lined with something uhmw or acetal. If just steel, do you notice any scratches from them on asphalt?

 

[Stan B]

The shoes on mine are AR400 steel. No scratches on the flat spots, but there is a spot where I come down a hill and transition to a flat area (both hill and flat are asphalt) and there are some scratches there. I think that is because the pusher isn't rolled back and so the "front" of the shoes bear the weight and focus it in a small area. No damage, just cosmetic that goes away after hot sun bakes the asphalt in the summer. The cutting edge should be set about 1/4" lower than the shoes though for hard surfaces, and the reverse for gravel. I think there are poly shoes available for mine but I haven't cared.

In watching your video Gene, if you tossed ~500 lbs in a ballast box on the rear of your setup, you could push straight through that snow.

 

[bridge4]

Bridge, that's a nice snow box you got. I looked up land pride, looks like the smallest one they got is a 5 footer.

Hey guys, the shoes on your pushers, are they just steel or are they lined with something uhmw or acetal. If just steel, do you notice any scratches from them on asphalt?

Thanks, they make a slightly smaller model, but not sure if it goes below 5 like you said.

I dont see marks on my pavement from the shoes, mine are ar400 as well, I do get marks if I go crazy with the steel scrape on it though.

 

[opie74]

I had a local guy build me a 72" pusher that is 18" tall using 1/4" steel for my previous b2650. The 2650 has turf tires and the rears were loaded with propylene glycol.

It had no issues pushing even wet/slushy snow into a pile.

I did design it to have the skids set to accept 1" HDPE that I used to have access to, so that's what it rides on. I do not have any pictures of it

 

[GeneV]

The shoes on mine are AR400 steel. No scratches on the flat spots, but there is a spot where I come down a hill and transition to a flat area (both hill and flat are asphalt) and there are some scratches there. I think that is because the pusher isn't rolled back and so the "front" of the shoes bear the weight and focus it in a small area. No damage, just cosmetic that goes away after hot sun bakes the asphalt in the summer. The cutting edge should be set about 1/4" lower than the shoes though for hard surfaces, and the reverse for gravel. I think there are poly shoes available for mine but I haven't cared.

In watching your video Gene, if you tossed ~500 lbs in a ballast box on the rear of your setup, you could push straight through that snow.

Well hey that would resolve my concern about steel shoes, since my driveway is mostly flat.

Regarding the vid, I was plowing toward the edges only because there was so much wet snow. Otherwise, I usually make the first pass down the center of my driveway with plow set straight, and then each next pass with plow angled on either side. I mostly don't have problems with it w/o ballast. I use 4wd and locking diff as needed.

But ballast here is worthy of some talk here, specifically how it affects the loss of steering as we talked a little bit about. For plowing, I'd think filled tires and/or wheel weights could help out with traction, whereas ballast box or implement hanging of the tail would lighten your front end more, increasing loss of steering if you're already having some of that while plowing/snow pushing.

 

[Stan B]

But ballast here is worthy of some talk here, specifically how it affects the loss of steering as we talked a little bit about. For plowing, I'd think filled tires and/or wheel weights could help out with traction, whereas ballast box or implement hanging of the tail would lighten your front end more, increasing loss of steering if you're already having some of that while plowing/snow pushing.

For sure, more weight on the tires would be superior to weight behind the tires in that application.

BTW, the HLA 1500 is available in a 54" model. Not quite your desired 4 ft dimension, but close.

 

[GeneV]

For sure, more weight on the tires would be superior to weight behind the tires in that application.

BTW, the HLA 1500 is available in a 54" model. Not quite your desired 4 ft dimension, but close.

Stan, I like it! 54" would be perfect, actually. I've seen Good Work Tractors and Tractor Time with Tim on youtube reviewing the HLA 1500 with the backdrag, it's real nice. One thing I prefer on the HLA compared to others is they don't have support brace rods inside the box that attach to the side walls like I've seen on other snow pushers.

 

[LittleBill21]

Stan, I like it! 54" would be perfect, actually. I've seen Good Work Tractors and Tractor Time with Tim on youtube reviewing the HLA 1500 with the backdrag, it's real nice. One thing I prefer on the HLA compared to others is they don't have support brace rods inside the box that attach to the side walls like I've seen on other snow pushers.

I've got to be honest, how much of a real difference is that over a loader bucket? my bucket is 54 and it pushes snow fine, it never goes over the top (only done 5 inches so far), but i push it 300 feet. and the advantage is i can lift it into the bank. these things only seem to make sense if they are 7 feet wide and your trying to save time

 

[GeneV]

Yeh, I plowed with my bucket before. Biggest difference is you don't have to dump the snow box after every pass like you do with a bucket.

 

[LittleBill21]

Yeh, I plowed with my bucket before. Biggest difference is you don't have to dump the snow box after every pass like you do with a bucket.

thats valid. i just watched your plow video in the previous page, was that video sped up? or do you normally go that fast? is there a reason you can't plow straight down, then just load out at the end? pushing sideways like that, is a ton a of maneuvering and actually reduces your pushing capability, i make 4 passes to do 8 feet 300 feet long, coming from my atv plow, its mind-blowingly better, i thought it wouldn't be so dramatic, but it is