Rear Remotes on CT2000 Series

[Snowlan]

I'm waiting on delivery of a CT2025 and planning what implements I want and in what order. In looking at the brochure, Bobcat describe the rear remotes as "4 Port Remote Hydraulic Valve (Spring Return and Detent)". This option is coming on my tractor and I read it to mean both sets of remotes have a spring return and they have a detent to allow float. Those of you with these tractors, am I correct in my thinking or do the two remotes work differently?

My first post here, sorry if this is answered on the forum elsewhere but I didn't have any luck finding it.

 

[Red-bug disease]

Just bought a CT2025 HST. For the rear remote Bobcat offer the following options: both spring return, both detent, or one spring return + one detent. I had to insist to the dealer to choose mine (the later). He was not aware of the three possibilities. I found it while I was sneaking around on the Bobcat parts catalog web site.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I'm waiting on delivery of a CT2025 and planning what implements I want and in what order. In looking at the brochure, Bobcat describe the rear remotes as "4 Port Remote Hydraulic Valve (Spring Return and Detent)". This option is coming on my tractor and I read it to mean both sets of remotes have a spring return and they have a detent to allow float. Those of you with these tractors, am I correct in my thinking or do the two remotes work differently?

My first post here, sorry if this is answered on the forum elsewhere but I didn't have any luck finding it.

The detents are not to allow "float", but rather full flow. There will be a detent either full forward or full backwards, changing the direction of the flow. This is used for attachments that have their own controls such as a log splitter or hydraulic auger (allows forward AND reverse rotation). In my case, my BH is plumbed into the remotes. It doesn't matter which hoses go into the ports.... if the operation is of the BH is reversed, just flip the remote lever to the opposite detent.... WA LAA ! Now works as normal...

 

[Snowlan]

Thanks LS Tractor Owner. Had I known there was a choice I may have deviated from the default setup and gotten two spring returns. But then again I may have been waiting extra months for it to arrive instead of it being at the dealer now waiting for me to get back from sea. PLus, as long as it still operates like a spring return for fine tuning as long as you keep away from the detent, the detent could be useful down the road.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Thanks LS Tractor Owner. Had I known there was a choice I may have deviated from the default setup and gotten two spring returns. But then again I may have been waiting extra months for it to arrive instead of it being at the dealer now waiting for me to get back from sea. PLus, as long as it still operates like a spring return for fine tuning as long as you keep away from the detent, the detent could be useful down the road.

yes, basically works the same, you can move the lever forward and backwards 95% of the way, and it will still spring return to center. This allows it to be used on a regular 2 way cylinder.

Kinda like the loader valve.....full use of the valve, but you can lock it into the detent / float if you want.

 

[edd189]

Snowlan, have you taken delivery of your CT2025 yet? Do you know first hand how those detent valves work? Based on my research into these valves, I would be surprised if the detent also has a spring in it. Why would anyone not get the detent valves if they also spring return to center if not fully engaged. I would love to be wrong though!

 

[Snowlan]

Not yet, it is still sitting at the dealer waiting for me. I'm at sea and have been delayed so I won't be back home until later in April. I will trust those that have used the valves for now, plus I see on the build and price option on the website they list the 3 different options of valves you can order. The combination one is the default option and is all that is listed in the brochure. I've just discovered that Bobcat and Kioti use the rear remote for the backhoe instead of a separate power beyond loop, so it makes sense that they spec this combination valve so it can fill both purposes.

 

[edd189]

Snowlan, have you taken delivery of your CT2025 yet? Do you know first hand how those detent valves work? Based on my research into these valves, I would be surprised if the detent also has a spring in it. Why would anyone not get the detent valves if they also spring return to center if not fully engaged. I would love to be wrong though!

My research seems to indicate that the detents do spring return to center. I'm like you, why not get both detent style if they still return when not fully engaged.

I asked my dealer this question 2.5 weeks ago and still haven't heard back.

 

[Snowlan]

I'll know for sure in 2 weeks and will update the forums when I do. The wait is killing me, but the plus side is my building lot is drying up more all the time.

 

[ajarthur]

I'll know for sure in 2 weeks and will update the forums when I do. The wait is killing me, but the plus side is my building lot is drying up more all the time.

Update?

 

[Snowlan]

Update?

Unfortunately still waiting. My dealer believes he has found a backhoe at another location and since the one ordered for me hasn’t arrived and there is no reliable update from the factory he is trying to make this other deal work before he delivers it without the hoe.

 

[gr8scott72]

The detent valve does spring back to center as long as you don't move it all the way to the end of travel limits.

 

[Snowlan]

I replied elsewhere on the form about the recent hydraulic top link installed on my tractor. I use the detent valve for this cylinder and it works great. Speed modulation of the flow is also awesome, I can creep the cylinder out or move it quickly.

 

[FOP]

I own a CT2025H delivered in Dec 2020.
I miss understood the three options and the dealer was ignorant too.
I chose the Spring Return + Detent option. Which results in one lever having no detent. The second lever has a detent with spring return. If I had to do over, I would have select both detent. I use this with a flail ditch mower. neither type "float" like the FEL bucket.

One downside to the detent is that during operation in brush or low limbs, the levers can be hit by the brush and unintentionally locked in detent (full flow).
This is an obvious noise difference and robs of HST flow - drive power/speed. Its a nusiance, nothing major.

 

[ajarthur]

I own a CT2025H delivered in Dec 2020.
I miss understood the three options and the dealer was ignorant too.
I chose the Spring Return + Detent option. Which results in one lever having no detent. The second lever has a detent with spring return. If I had to do over, I would have select both detent. I use this with a flail ditch mower. neither type "float" like the FEL bucket.

One downside to the detent is that during operation in brush or low limbs, the levers can be hit by the brush and unintentionally locked in detent (full flow).
This is an obvious noise difference and robs of HST flow - drive power/speed. Its a nusiance, nothing major.

I've gotten used to both of my remotes being Detent... actually like it that way after having spent some time using them with various implements including a grapple.

 

[Snowlan]

The detent lever is the one I use for my top cylinder and it does result in an accidental angle change of the 3PH occasionally.

 

[Trippy1313]

Just bought a CT2025 HST. For the rear remote Bobcat offer the following options: both spring return, both detent, or one spring return + one detent. I had to insist to the dealer to choose mine (the later). He was not aware of the three possibilities. I found it while I was sneaking around on the Bobcat parts catalog web site.

That's correct. There are three options to get.

When I ordered mine I requested one of each as well. They told me that's the standard if someone ordered two sets of remotes without specifying.

 

[woolyAcres]

I have a CT2025 but I used the Kioti kit to add 2 sets of remotes to the bobcat. Kit fit no problem. I ordered one spring return and one detent set.