Potential 1st time Tractor Owner

   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #11  
Is your land flat or hilly.
I love my 1720 for getting between trees, but don't use it for my driveway (asphalt). Also have 6 acres, hilly, mostly forest with 5 smaller grass areas, added wheel spacers to stablize on the angled hills.
If you can go bigger and still fit everywhere, then that always helps.

Look at what attachments you may want, need enough weight and power to drag them around.
I use a 7' front mounted plow to do 700' plus 2 driveways of plowing, no chains, just 4WD.
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #12  
Look at a JD 2025r or 3025e, both are free of the DPF because they are less than 25hp. Kubota makes a B and a L sized machine that are also 25 horsepower machines that would be a good choice.
I ordered a Yanmar YT235C 35 hp tractor and it don't use DPF

willy
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #13  
The kioti 2610 is known as best in class for 25hp and below (no DPF required). Since it is the same tractor as the 3510/4010 just smaller engine, the frame is as heavy and FEL capacity/hydraulics all designed for 40hp. Kioti is the biggest name that isn’t green or kubota and has been in the US for 30+ years. You will typically get more for your money with kioti than the other two. Dealer network is large and growing but of course doesn’t match kubota or Deere; if you have a good kioti dealer close enough then that’s enough.
Sounds to me like you’d be better off with a grapple, box blade, tiller, and forks than a backhoe as none of what you mentioned seemed to use the hoe - but only you know if there is value in that extra cost and hassle to remove it to use the 3-point.
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #14  
If you want the more deluxe cab version get the Kioti 2610SE HST

 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #15  
I moved out of suburbs to 6 acres - 3 acres with trees and 3 with lawn.

I looked at the Kubota B2650 and B3250 with cab. I need a back and front loader, and something to redo my gravel drive way...

which would you recommend?
Or would a Kioti or Mahindra is better? They seem more economical and has more upgrades without the up charge that Kubota offers.

Which has ones has parts that are more readily available?

Gas or diesel? I don't want to deal with DEF diesel stuff.

In Michigan near Milan


Thanks
"I need a back and front loader" ????
A back loader? Huh?
If you have ever even thought about a Mercedes....buy a Kubota!
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #16  
Have you seen this:




willy
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #17  
I won't need it for cutting grass because I already have a zero-turn mower. I want it for plotting flower and veggie beds, moving fallen trees ( some are lot of the mature trees are dying), re-grading gravel driveway, moving dirt to level out low area, too old to lift large items like I used to back in the day. Snow removal as well.

How heavy of things will you need/want to lift as a single unbroken item?

I ask as loader capacity can be one of those things that can drive the tractor size (part of how I ended up with a Kubota L3560 on less than 3 acres) - and that capacity should be considered with respect to lift height and reach at that height. There's a whole lot of marketing tractors purely on loader lift capacity which isn't something that's always useful on it's own. For example: being able to lift 2000lbs, but not being able dump/load it into/onto the intended place doesn't do much good

A few other things to consider are:
1) time to perform a task vs. how much you time you have; this will drives implement sizing and in turn tractor sizing (for example: just because someone could mow a 5 acre field with a 22" push mower doesn't mean it's practical for everyone to do so)
2) budget - not just initial tractor purchase, but planned implements and other things that may not be as obvious (e.g. tools to perform regular maintenance or have it done).
3) any other hard limitations on size that may apply (e.g. overall height for parking it in an existing garage & overall width if you need to get through a gate).
4) other special considerations for your location; for example: hills/slopes, higher altitude operations (unlikely in MI, but...)
5) any special preferences on desired implements that may have special requirements (e.g. 3rd function on the loader for operating a grapple, or rear remotes for things like top & tilt kits, snow blowing vs. pushing where the type/volume of snow that usually needs to be removed at a single time may play a part)

...and if you really want to get into the weeds
6) look into the required maintenance intervals (sometimes a cheap tractor is cheap because it's going to require a lot of regular maintenance) - it may not make a huge difference with a small tractor, but with a larger tractor or larger the fluid capacities having to do something like an oil change every 400 hours vs every 200 hours can eat away a difference in upfront price pretty quickly (depending on how often the tractor is being used obviously).

While everyone here can help obviously spend your money, it's unlikely anyone here (other than you) will be making the payment or spending the time to do whatever work you want/need to do around your new place. So on that note it's probably worth taking any advice given with a grain (or bag) of salt.

BTW Currently DEF doesn't become an issue until the engine HP goes over 75HP, and anything under 25HP won't have any sort of emission system --- and opinions on emissions systems for tractors between 25HP and 75HP tend to vary by location, type, and how an operator runs their equipment.

Just my $0.02 though...
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner
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#18  
Looked at the LS and Kioti today. Is it common practice for the dealer to change the quoted price to a larger amount when you ask about 0% financing?

The dealer told me it would me 4.3% for the LS and I'd loose the rebate too, and 0% for the Kioti but works out to 3.5% intrest and I'd loose the rebate as well.

This seems a bit odd to me.

I bought a zero turn e-mark last year and received the rebate, along with 0% financing.
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #19  
with "O" percent financing they hit you with finance charges up front
and they say "0"% financing. They always have a way to screw you

willy
 
   / Potential 1st time Tractor Owner #20  
Looked at the LS and Kioti today. Is it common practice for the dealer to change the quoted price to a larger amount when you ask about 0% financing?

The dealer told me it would me 4.3% for the LS and I'd loose the rebate too, and 0% for the Kioti but works out to 3.5% intrest and I'd loose the rebate as well.

This seems a bit odd to me.

I bought a zero turn e-mark last year and received the rebate, along with 0% financing.

I believe this practice is fairly common in the tractor world and I have experienced it on a couple of occasions while tractor shopping. My dealer absorbs those fees so the buyer doesn't pay any extra for 0% financing.

Mike
 

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