Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

You are so right on this... most folks don't see past just the oil/gas.

So true. Sounds like the refineries are going to need new technologies perhaps.

The How's and Why's of Replacing the Whole Barrel

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[cqaigy2]

Yesterday I watched a video of the reveal party of the 2022 F-150 electric truck.

Like all innovations, the first adopters will be enthusiasts and the well to do. For the vast majority of our driving a 200 mile range would be plenty, but I have no interest in sitting at a charging station waiting on the battery. An EV at my house would charge in the shop or garage, but that is not a option for renters. I would still keep an ICE around for long trips.

If i get an EV, i'll probably just rent an ICE if you need longer distance. Actually i do that anyway, as i don't want to put the mile on my own vehicle.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I want an EV convertible.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

We Bet F-150 Lightning's Range Is under 100 Miles when Towing at the Max

Support for my guessing ability

Our Leaf can get 4 miles per 1 kWh of battery usage with light foot driving or 2 miles when dogging it. If I was going to do much towing I'd like to start out with a 500 mi range minimum.

That's why I'm not holding my breath for battery farm equipment. I watched a neighbor chop corn silage. His equipment runs twin 300 hp Volvo diesels. I don't remember exactly how much fuel he used, but IIRC it was in the neighborhood of 200 gallons a day. I can see railroads being electrified. Europe runs on electric trains. Heavy trucking, not so much.

The F-150 is a suburban light duty utility vehicle. Local rental outfits won't even rent a trailer to you unless you are driving a 3/4 ton. The F-150 is designed for trips to the garden center or Home Depot.

What I marvel at are the stupid 4-door pickups that seem to be standard now. They have about the same bed space as my Mazda mini-truck. I've actually seen 4-door half tons running around with an aftermarket luggage rack.

 

[grsthegreat]

Kia in January confirmed that the upcoming EV will have “around 300 miles” of range and offer a “sub-20-minute recharge time.” For this vision to become a common reality, we will need to see a lot more 350-kW fast-chargers get installed throughout the country. No EV today can charge at 350 kilowatts, but the emerging 800-volt systems can commonly hit 250-kW.



250,000 to 350000 watts chargers. holy crap, how is the power grid supposed to support this.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Kia in January confirmed that the upcoming EV will have “around 300 miles” of range and offer a “sub-20-minute recharge time.” For this vision to become a common reality, we will need to see a lot more 350-kW fast-chargers get installed throughout the country. No EV today can charge at 350 kilowatts, but the emerging 800-volt systems can commonly hit 250-kW.



250,000 to 350000 watts chargers. holy crap, how is the power grid supposed to support this.

Tesla plans to move to solar for primary at Super Chargers stations I read. I hope to build a garage and use it's roof to power our place to reduce our $5K annual electric bill. Power generation and storage costs are dropping like a rock.

 

[grsthegreat]

Tesla plans to move to solar for primary at Super Chargers stations I read. I hope to build a garage and use it's roof to power our place to reduce our $5K annual electric bill. Power generation and storage costs are dropping like a rock.

i can only imagine the size of the solar panel and battery storage needed to charge a bunch of tesla cars at the same time. personally i cant see how they can do it. holy cow, $5k in power bills. that sucks. i average about $150 per month... higher in summer,lower in winter. i just have not seen the figures on paper to justify solar at my home. but if i was forking out $5k i would sharpen the pencil.

my customers here that are on solar generally sink $40 grand into the systems (i have placed generators on their systems). it would take me nearly 23 years to recoup the money, and before then id be needing panel repairs and new batteries.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

We are an all electric home. In 1986 we bought the place and added on in 1991 and took out the flue one brick at a time by hand since the mortar had totally failed and gave away the wood stove. The water source heat pumps have failed beyond repair so we are on resistance heat. We are planning on going with Tesla home heat pumps. Our 30 year roof is now 30 years old but well pitched so we should have some time remaining.

Fossil fuels were already under attack 30 years ago in places like CA and we have 3 phase at run a 1/4 mile past our place. I have not started planning a solar system but if they start giving them away I want one ASAP.

A new roof, ability to be off/on grid and battery storage system with Tesla heat pumps should have our big ticket items out of the way for a few decades. If we can get solar and storage at no net cost over time that would be a retirement plus. Years ago this happened for some in farming.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Kia in January confirmed that the upcoming EV will have “around 300 miles” of range and offer a “sub-20-minute recharge time.” For this vision to become a common reality, we will need to see a lot more 350-kW fast-chargers get installed throughout the country. No EV today can charge at 350 kilowatts, but the emerging 800-volt systems can commonly hit 250-kW.

250,000 to 350000 watts chargers. holy crap, how is the power grid supposed to support this.

The charging stations could have local power storage. I read an article not long ago about using flywheels to store energy. A big flywheel can store an impressive amount of power, and release it quickly for a 20 minute charge. Then it could gradually spin up again, stabilizing the load on the grid.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

We are an all electric home. In 1986 we bought the place and added on in 1991 and took out the flue one brick at a time by hand since the mortar had totally failed and gave away the wood stove. The water source heat pumps have failed beyond repair so we are on resistance heat. We are planning on going with Tesla home heat pumps. Our 30 year roof is now 30 years old but well pitched so we should have some time remaining.

Fossil fuels were already under attack 30 years ago in places like CA and we have 3 phase at run a 1/4 mile past our place. I have not started planning a solar system but if they start giving them away I want one ASAP.

A new roof, ability to be off/on grid and battery storage system with Tesla heat pumps should have our big ticket items out of the way for a few decades. If we can get solar and storage at no net cost over time that would be a retirement plus. Years ago this happened for some in farming.

Do the roof before you stack thousands of dollars on it.