Do you know what the purple paint law is?

[Sigarms]

I don’t know about that…..
True, you or I might not want to attend it. But the very fact that one occurs might be gruesome enough to prevent another murder and that in the end is the goal- reduce future murder

I have little doubt that the murder rate hasn't changed since Cain slew Able.

If anything, perhaps during the 1800's during the growth of our country and the "wild west", the murder rate per population may have been higher than it is today.

 

[Hay Dude]

I have little doubt that the murder rate hasn't changed since Cain slew Able.

If anything, perhaps during the 1800's during the growth of our country and the "wild west", the murder rate per population may have been higher than it is today.

I’d really doubt that
Murder rates today are about the highest they’ve ever been.
Perhaps a return to swifter justice, instead of the 20 years of appeals and stays would help.
Note that I said I personally do not condone public execution. I suggested that it would reduce criminal behavior.

 

[Frankenkubota]

So a nun broke a stick over your head for bad behavior, but it didn’t stop your bad behavior? Then your parents got involved and beatings stopped?
I would think your parents getting the beatings stopped is why. My guess is if the beatings continued there would be more of a chance your bad behavior would have stopped.
I don’t ever condone corporal punishment.

the penguin was tuff!

 

[Sigarms]

I’d really doubt that
Murder rates today are about the highest they’ve ever been.
Perhaps a return to swifter justice, instead of the 20 years of appeals and stays would help.
Note that I said I personally do not condone public execution. I suggested that it would reduce criminal behavior.

Actually if you look, I believe you will find crime rates have decreased over the centuries of our countries history. One thing to consider is we have a crapload more people than before, added I'm always leary about statistics. That said, one thing I'm certain of is human nature hasn't changed. The added variable is technology today doesn't let people get away with what they did 100 years ago.

 

[MossRoad]

So a nun broke a stick over your head for bad behavior, but it didn’t stop your bad behavior? Then your parents got involved and beatings stopped?
I would think your parents getting the beatings stopped is why. My guess is if the beatings continued there would be more of a chance your bad behavior would have stopped.
I don’t ever condone corporal punishment.

I wasn't having bad behavior in the first place. A simple "Please be quiet" would have sufficed.

My parents got involved because I told them exactly what happened. I was 5 years old. I was not afraid of my parents or any other adult up to that point. Never had a reason to be.

What it really was about was a 5 year old boy being friendly to a 5 year old girl the 1st week of class and all the sick pent up dirty sexual stuff that lady had in her head. She was gonna put a stop to it. That's the way many nuns were back then. Everything between boys and girls was dirty. Quite a repressed bunch those nuns were.

My mother, being a teacher in that building, knew exactly what was going on. She'd been through it herself as a kid. And being a teacher of her 5 own children in that school, she knew that she had to be extra hard on us behavior-wise in class or the kids would hassle us because "your mom's the teacher". Yet mom never had to paddle a kid in 15 years at that school. Not us, or any other kid. She eventually left volunteering for a paying job in the local public schools and became teacher of the year in our state. Never spanked a kid. Go figure.

 

[MoKelly]

Actually if you look, I believe you will find crime rates have decreased over the centuries of our countries history. One thing to consider is we have a crapload more people than before, added I'm always leary about statistics. That said, one thing I'm certain of is human nature hasn't changed. The added variable is technology today doesn't let people get away with what they did 100 years ago.

I think the bigger problem today (although it’s purely a guess as I have no idea what folks thought long ago) is the people committing the murders now do not believe they will be caught.

They believe their biggest risk is being shot by another gang. Not caught by police.

Honestly, take a look at STL murders after Ferguson and look at Baltimore. Police were blamed. Police forces dwindled.

In STL the police have 125 open positions. They are not going to be filled. Defunded. STL murders per capita is highest in recorded history - 70 murders per 100,000 people.

That is 220 murders per year. Guess how many folks were convicted of murder in STL last year? 15. Yep 15.

MoKelly

 

[Sigarms]

Quite a repressed bunch those nuns were.

Should hear my father talk about the nuns in Catholic school in the 1930's. Back then you'd get whacked even if you talked in your native language if it wasn't English.

 

[MoKelly]

I was educated by nuns from nursery school thru high school.

There was only one rule. Discipline. You did what they said. Period. My nuns rarely hit you. They sent you to the principals office where your Dad was called. For most kids back then, you’d rather be hit!!!

When class was over, we stood, got in straight lines, and walked out of the room. Then, get to the next assigned location on time. Then line up outside the room and, when told, walk into the room to your assigned desk.

The only time you were “free” was recess.

I remember when nuns went from the traditional habit to showing more of their face. It was a shock! A real person. Some nuns I thought were 100 years old were actually quite young.

MoKelly

 

[MossRoad]

...

My parents found fireworks under my bed one time as a kid. Got a spanking then. ...

As a kid, I found WWII Japanese hand grenades in our garage attic. I didn't get to spank my dad.

My mom wasn't too happy with him, though.

(They were inert at that point. He disarmed them and shipped them home after the war as souvenirs).

I realize as an adult, the things my parents did, and why they did them based on their life experiences. I was the last of 5 kids, so I'm sure they learned lessons on the first 4 that saved me some headaches of trial and error. I know we treated our first a lot different than our second based on our experiences as we grew as parents.

 

[MossRoad]

Should hear my father talk about the nuns in Catholic school in the 1930's. Back then you'd get whacked even if you talked in your native language if it wasn't English.

My Hungarian grandma was beaten by a Polish teacher repeatedly back around 1902 because of something that happened between the two ethnicities back in Europe that neither one of them were alive when it happened.

Her dad ended up beating the teacher in the classroom. Yikes!

Lots of stuff carried over to the States from other continents back then. Still does today. Kinda like the Hatfields and McCoys, only the names are different.