Indiana Songbird Deaths

cqaigy2 · Jul 20, 2021

Citydude said:
And you have no proof it's not.

And you have no proof that he doesn't have any proof.

kenmbz · Jul 20, 2021

Anyone find any updates?
Last I see in PA is from the 13th.

cqaigy2 · Jul 20, 2021

Citydude said:
His was an opinion. This isn't CNN.

Starting to look "Face bookish" in my opinion, and that's a fact.

sixdogs · Jul 20, 2021

Anyone mention the herbicide dicamba? It appeared to cause a lot of drift problems with nearby crops and I think the state of Ohio got involved. It seems to be blamed for a lot of crop damage so maybe birds as well?

ponytug · Jul 20, 2021

sixdogs said:
Anyone mention the herbicide dicamba? It appeared to cause a lot of drift problems with nearby crops and I think the state of Ohio got involved. It seems to be blamed for a lot of crop damage so maybe birds as well?

Initial toxicology reports were negative, so unlikely, but not impossible. The eye damage is novel.

All the best,

Peter

ruffdog · Jul 20, 2021

I also see the the EAST is having a problem with snakes and it sounds similar to the bird issue. The eyes also get crusty.....I wonder if they are related???? It is called snake fungal disease.

Quote: "News of the spreading disease comes weeks after the USGS reported a similarly mysterious eye illness is killing birds in multiple mid-Atlantic states."

Snakes look like monsters as fungal disease spreads in US, experts say

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article252866068.html

ruffdog · Jul 23, 2021

Now there are more people getting a bad fungus.....are they connected?

Outbreaks of a drug-resistant superbug fungus spread in two U.S. cities, CDC reports

gstrom99 · Jul 23, 2021

I had three birds whack themselves into my house windows yesterday. I was only able to find one, which was dead on my deck. An oriole.

Very weird.

ponytug · Jul 23, 2021

ruffdog said:
Now there are more people getting a bad fungus.....are they connected?

Outbreaks of a drug-resistant superbug fungus spread in two U.S. cities, CDC reports

I would file it as possibly but rather unlikely as the symptoms are so very different. This particular fungus, C. auris has been slowly gaining ground in the US, and globally for quite sometime. For some reason, this bubbled up into the popular press this week. The issue is real. You don't want to get this bug.

I am not saying it is click bait, but it isn't clear to me why now. That said, there are lots of other bugs that you wouldn't want to get, hanta virus, valley fever, west Nile encephalitis, fungal meningitis... or even less deadly things like Covid, or Lyme disease, even a full blown bacterial blood infection, septicemia is rather deadly.

Fungi are, in the grand scheme of things, rather closely related to humans, so there are not many drugs that work well to kill internal fungal infections that don't also kill humans. It is rather like the 007 shots where the sharpshooter hits the terrorist's gun, without hitting or hurting the hostage...looks great in Hollywood, but harder in real life.

All the best,

Peter