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[deezler]

If people actually believed that the sea levels are going to rise, why do the insurance companies continue to insure every single home, hotel and building on the coast? Why would Obama spend so much money for a house right next to the ocean if he believed in global warming?

His house is up a hill from the bay. It wont flood before he's long gone.

Insurance companies are pulling back from flood-prone areas all over the place, in many parts of Florida for example. Just pay a little more attention and you'll start to see the shift underway.

 

[ruffdog]

Yeah, in some areas you can't get a loan or insurance......you are on your own.

 

[newbury]

Let's go back to Pittsburgh 1940... things were much better then.

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Moss - you need to find a "sarcasm emojii".

I also VIVIDLY remember the late '60's through the mid '70's. I lived in Vermont.
There is a park, Ethan Allen, very near Burlington, Vermont. It has a little tower as shown in the link.
For some reason a group (4 to 6) of us got in the habit of riding out there almost every nice sunset one summer to climb the tower and watch the sun set over Lake Champlain. At the beginning of the summer you could look to the far south and see a "cloud" of pollution. By the end of the summer the cloud had almost reached Burlington.
When I joined the Army in '75 and moved to DC acid rain had begun. Pollution in DC was like smokiing 1 or 2 packs of cigs a day. Thankfully despite the massive increase in motor vehicles that is mostly past.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Some past sea levels may not have been as high as thought, says study of rising and sinking landmasses

A new study finds that researchers examining signs of past sea levels along various coasts may have failed to accurately correct for long-term ups and downs of the land itself.

www.sciencedaily.com

Food for thought on sea level rise...August 9, 2021

Kevin

 

[deezler]

Some past sea levels may not have been as high as thought, says study of rising and sinking landmasses

A new study finds that researchers examining signs of past sea levels along various coasts may have failed to accurately correct for long-term ups and downs of the land itself.

www.sciencedaily.com

Food for thought on sea level rise...August 9, 2021

Kevin

Interesting, thanks. Thats the thing about all of this, our understanding continues to get better as more research is done. From your article:

..along the U.S. East Coast: In many areas, the Atlantic Ocean is rising 1 to 2 millimeters a year. At the same time, the coast is sinking an equivalent amount, in reaction to the melting of the ice sheet further north thousands of years ago. Flooding from the resulting double whammy can already be seen in many areas.

 

[Doughknob]

Furthermore scientific law states matter cannot be created nor destroyed.But it can be changed in form, which is what we do in bringing liquid oil from underground and burn it and put gas and solid particulates into the atmosphere. In other words, we can transform one thing into another (trees into lumber, oar into steel, herbs into medicines, etc.) but we can't create new things and we can't destroy what God has made. It's science. Therefore, humans cannot "destroy the planet" by simply living here. but we can destroy its ability to support human life. You are correct - the planet will be here but we may not.
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As the old saying goes, "there is nothing new under the sun".Do you think KS wrote this? What if he meant that our time on the garden was indeed limited all along? In other words, Nothing new = correct, we have been working towards our end from the start; and climate change due to our activity is just the latest thing we do to get us to that end point? So many "what ifs."

 

[MossRoad]

If people actually believed that the sea levels are going to rise, why do the insurance companies continue to insure every single home, hotel and building on the coast? Why would Obama spend so much money for a house right next to the ocean if he believed in global warming?

Because there's still money in it for them.

 

[MossRoad]

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[NoTrespassing]

More nuggets from March 2021

Skimming though it, would one conclude the sinking of the east coast is contributing to sea level rise MUCH more than melting glaciers? Battery Park is sinking over 3mm per year and sea levels are rising .7mm per year in the same location. Maybe we should be pumping sea water into the ground? LOL

Absolute and relative sea-level rise in the New York City area by measurements from tide gauges and satellite global positioning system

The absolute and relative rates of rise of the sea level are computed for the New York City area by coupling global positioning system records of the …

www.sciencedirect.com

The relative sea-level rate of rise (SLR), from tide gauge records, is -2.851 mm/yr. at Battery Park and it is -4.076 mm/yr. in the shorter tide gauge record of Sandy Hook. The relative sea-level acceleration is about +0.008 mm/yr² in Battery Park.

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The most likely subsidence from GPS time series is about -2.151 mm/yr. at Battery Park and it is -3.076 mm/yr. in Sandy Hook.

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The most likely absolute SLR is therefore about 0.7 mm/yr. in Battery Park and it is 1.0 mm/yr. in Sandy Hook.

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Thus, in the New York City area, the likely absolute SLR is about 0.7 to 1.0 mm/yr., the likely relative sea-level acceleration is about +0.008 mm/yr², the likely subsidence is about -2.151 to -3.076 mm/yr., and the likely relative SLR is about -2.851 to -4.076 mm/yr.

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As the relative SLR, that is the result of the land and sea components, has negligible acceleration in the long-term-trend tide gauge at Battery Park, this is an indication that both land subsidence, and absolute sea-level rise, have been stable over the period of observation.

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This result is confirmed by the 32 other long term trend stations along the East Coast of North America in addition to Battery Park. The average relative rate of rise is 2.22 mm/yr. subjected to a small, positive acceleration of +0.0027 mm/yr2.

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Differentiating in between Canadian and US stations, the average relative rate of rise of the 11 stations in Canada is 0.61 mm/yr. subjected to a negative acceleration of -0.0133 mm/yr2 while the average relative rate of rise of the 22 stations of the US is 3.02 mm/yr. subjected to a positive acceleration of 0.0108 mm/yr2.

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Excessive groundwater withdrawal-induced subsidence that is much stronger for the East coast of the US than Canada, is likely responsible for most of the difference, with different circulations patterns and other phenomena accounting for the rest.

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It may be concluded that the absolute SLR by 2050 in the Manhattan area will be likely 30 mm, and the SLR by 2100 likely 80 mm. The relative SLR by 2050 in the Manhattan area will be likely 85 mm, and the SLR by 2100 likely 228 mm, for the overwhelming subsidence contribution.

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Ocean and coastal management should be based on proven sea level data and not on speculations by unvalidated models.

 

[Hay Dude]

Do you think that the pollution in those pictures has gone away? The pollution and the thousands of jobs that were created by the pollution has simply been sent to China. They now make the products sell them back to us and use cheap/ slave wage workers to produce the products. Since the government of China controls the money, it is spent to promote a style of government that does not promote individual rights and freedoms.

So lets recap this. America losses jobs, money, independence, the ability to control its own goods, think about WWII when the country was able to produce the goods needed to win the war, and the regulation of the pollution producers.

China gains jobs, control of a big piece of our ability to build things from steel/iron(our economy), profits, and they pollute all they want.

Oh yea we came out way ahead on that deal.

Do you think that the pollution in those pictures has gone away? The pollution and the thousands of jobs that were created by the pollution has simply been sent to China. They now make the products sell them back to us and use cheap/ slave wage workers to produce the products. Since the government of China controls the money, it is spent to promote a style of government that does not promote individual rights and freedoms.

So lets recap this. America losses jobs, money, independence, the ability to control its own goods, think about WWII when the country was able to produce the goods needed to win the war, and the regulation of the pollution producers.

China gains jobs, control of a big piece of our ability to build things from steel/iron(our economy), profits, and they pollute all they want.

Oh yea we came out way ahead on that deal.

Gee Ray firing BOTH BARRELS and hits the bullseye!
Man that is the TRUTH
Gospel, Gee Ray. Pure GOSPEL