Kioti

[k0ua]

I am curious. What is it about the pedal arrangement that you didn't like and is atypical for similar tractors? Thanks!

Kubota's usually have the single treadle pedal on their hydrostatic tractors that some people don't like. The Kioti like most brands have the dual hydro pedal setup. More people seem to prefer that setup. I am fine with either. I had a Kubota with the single pedal, and got used to that, and now have the Kioti and I am fine with that.

By the way my Kioti was about $10,000 less than the comparable Kubota. However the Kubota would have had the premium Hydrostatic transmission with the 2 speed hydraulic motor and the other features that it offers. Of course there are a couple of features on my Kioti that the Kubota would not have.

 

[4570Man]

Kubota's usually have the single treadle pedal on their hydrostatic tractors that some people don't like. The Kioti like most brands have the dual hydro pedal setup. More people seem to prefer that setup. I am fine with either. I had a Kubota with the single pedal, and got used to that, and now have the Kioti and I am fine with that.

By the way my Kioti was about $10,000 less than the comparable Kubota. However the Kubota would have had the premium Hydrostatic transmission with the 2 speed hydraulic motor and the other features that it offers. Of course there are a couple of features on my Kioti that the Kubota would not have.

Most people that don’t like the Kubota pedal are using them wrong. Personally I think the 2 pedal setup is goofy and I don’t like it. Also there’s different pedals on the Kubota Grand vs the economy tractor. I’m not as familiar with the Kioti so I won’t comment but the Kubota grand is a far superior machine to the basic Kubota. Some people call it bells and whistles but that’s far from the truth. First and foremost the Grand has a 6 speed transmission vs a 3. In addition to that it has far superior 3 point arms, a more comfortable seat, a tilt column steering wheel, a separate clutch for the pto engagement, cruise control, and probably other stuff I’m forgetting about.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Personally I think the 2 pedal setup is goofy and I don’t like it.

Because you are using them wrong

 

[Torvy]

Thanks for the answers. I am not likely to get HST, so that helps me keep it in perspective for my needs. (hopefully others' too)

 

[rScotty]

Thanks for the answers. I am not likely to get HST, so that helps me keep it in perspective for my needs. (hopefully others' too)

What transmissions are you looking at?

I like the 6 speed HST on our Kubota with the 3 range & high low in each. It's a great transmission. Durable, lots of filtration, and good cooling. Somehow having lots of gears to chose from makes it feel more nimble.

I'm spoiled by all those gears, and in spite of HST convenience, would look seriously at a glideshift/powershift over a HST with less speeds.
rScotty

 

[Torvy]

Any gear transmission, to me, is better than an HST. Between power loss in PTO to my own experience with gear shifts. The L has 8F/8R. That is on the low end for some of the machines in its class.

 

[ptsg]

Any gear transmission, to me, is better than an HST. Between power loss in PTO to my own experience with gear shifts. The L has 8F/8R. That is on the low end for some of the machines in its class.

True. Most brands offers a 12x12 these days. Branson offers a fully synchronized 16x16 on their newer 20 series (3620, 4820 and 5520). Shuttle shift, ranges and main gears all synchronized, which I don't think anyone offers that in this size of tractor.

 

[paulfun9]

Most people that don’t like the Kubota pedal are using them wrong. Personally I think the 2 pedal setup is goofy and I don’t like it. Also there’s different pedals on the Kubota Grand vs the economy tractor. I’m not as familiar with the Kioti so I won’t comment but the Kubota grand is a far superior machine to the basic Kubota. Some people call it bells and whistles but that’s far from the truth. First and foremost the Grand has a 6 speed transmission vs a 3. In addition to that it has far superior 3 point arms, a more comfortable seat, a tilt column steering wheel, a separate clutch for the pto engagement, cruise control, and probably other stuff I’m forgetting about.

So after years of living with it we were still using it wrong? You do realise there are only so many ways you can place your feet before one establishes they don’t like it!


For the OP
Kioti has been a very good tractor for me.

All brands seem to be good these days so buy the one that fits your needs no matter the brand name. Don’t get sucked into the name game but if your more comfortable on a kubota then buy it if you happen to like an LS best go that way as any of the machines will surely make you happy.

Personally with the experiance I have dealing with electronics and computers in vehicles that would be the thing I would stay furthest from so something like the Yanmar with all its gadgets and the need for serious computer enhanced controlls would be taken right off my list by the straight forward design of the Branson.
Out of all my years of ownership and shopping brands the only brand to have me sit with an unusable tractor during a test drive was the newer Yanmar and the dealer could do nothing but inch it to the side and wait for a specialist to come and fetch it. Just not the kind of crap one will want to deal with 10 or 20 years down the road.

 

[TmbrWlkr]

For what it’s worth; I would be wary of buying a machine from a “non-dealer”! (RK etc.)

Warranty, parts, and future resale value would be my concerns. Also just general accumulated knowledge when you have questions.

 

[Droptine]

Are you just shopping brands? Do you have a tractor size, weight or HP considerations?

If you’re set on Kioti, please look at Bobcat too. The Bobcat is a rebadged Kioti (with a proprietary loader) and it may be cheaper than a comparable Kioti.

Mike

I'm looking to be in the 40hp range, I did briefly look at the bobcat I am definitely not apposed to it I'll research more into it
Thank you