Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

Jstpssng · Oct 7, 2021

Larry Caldwell said:
The link doesn't work, but China is shutting down factories because of power shortages, Europe is going to run out of fuel this winter, and the US will barely squeak by if we don't have any emergencies. Our diesel/fuel oil reserves are off 20% heading into fall. The era of cheap carbon is drawing to a close. Escalating fossil fuel prices will accelerate the change. When gasoline hits $6/gallon, people are going to be lining up to buy EVs.

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

We estimate that U.S. energy-related carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions decreased by 11% in 2020 as a result of less energy consumption related to reduced economic activity and responses to COVID-19. For 2021, we forecast energy-related CO2 emissions will increase about 8% from the 2020 level as economic activity increases and leads to rising energy use. We also expect energy-related CO2 emissions to rise in 2022 but at a slower rate of 2%. We forecast that after declining by 19% in 2020, coal-related CO2 emissions will rise by 22% in 2021 and then decrease by 2% in 2022. Short-term changes in energy-related CO2 can be affected by temperature. A recent STEO supplement examines these dynamics

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

Citydude · Oct 7, 2021

Larry Caldwell said:
The link doesn't work, but China is shutting down factories because of power shortages, Europe is going to run out of fuel this winter, and the US will barely squeak by if we don't have any emergencies. Our diesel/fuel oil reserves are off 20% heading into fall. The era of cheap carbon is drawing to a close. Escalating fossil fuel prices will accelerate the change. When gasoline hits $6/gallon, people are going to be lining up to buy EVs.

Off shore EV's. America wont have enough energy for manufacturing anything but toilet paper.

Gale Hawkins · Oct 7, 2021

Jstpssng said:
That goes against everything that I ever learned... a Harley rider actually got on my case about that very thing. The funny thing about Harley guys; they may ride and act different than we'd like, but they take care of their machines.

Like he said getting home and pulling the tire and patching from the inside Is the best way. I need to get a plug kit to put in the glove box of the Leaf. In the process of buying a parts car we have 4 matching Wheels with Michelin tires for spares now.

Gale Hawkins · Oct 7, 2021

Jstpssng said:
Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

Today Elon Musk stated that it will be like 2061 before the grid will have to be enough to handle all the cars because of gas and Diesel power will be around for another 40 years per the head of Tesla.

Grumpycat · Oct 7, 2021

Jstpssng said:
Plugging motorcycle tires? THAT's a big mistake.

F.U.D.

Plugs work just fine. Never had one fail but have had a tire which leaked as much as 1 PSI/minute that I couldn’t find in a hour with soapy water. It went to the dump early.

Larry Caldwell · Oct 7, 2021

Jstpssng said:
Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

Nothing happens overnight, but rising crude prices have already cut demand. OPEC has increased production because they don't want demand to drop. They depend on the cash flow, but the cow won't live forever.

Jstpssng · Oct 7, 2021

Larry Caldwell said:
Nothing happens overnight, but rising crude prices have already cut demand. OPEC has increased production because they don't want demand to drop. They depend on the cash flow, but the cow won't live forever.

I understand that. Some do seem to expect it to happen overnight though; that's not going to happen.

California · Oct 8, 2021

Norway to hit 100 per cent electric vehicle sales early next year

Analysis shows the last new petrol or diesel car sold in Norway will come as early as April, 2022 – three years ahead of the government's target.

www.drive.com.au

Gale Hawkins · Oct 8, 2021

A global energy crisis is coming. There's no quick fix

At Tesla's shareholders meeting yesterday the global energy crisis was a strong undercurrent that is driving the supply chain issues that are getting worse by the day worldwide.

This pandemic has revealed how the worldwide economy is a house of cards.

With most of the worlds population heading into winter manufacturing is slowing as World governments direct the limited energy supplies away from making stuff to heating homes.

We have finally thrown the baby out with bath water. As Elon Musk keeps saying it's going to take a lot of fossil fuel usage to make renewable energy sources happen. Yesterday he said EVs make up less than 1% of cars on the roads today. So EVs are not a quick fix solution because they will require renewable energy solutions to charge them before net emissions can be meaningful cut.

Tesla is 8 months behind on shipping some cars in current production due to demand and that is with ZERO EV Federal rebates in place for Tesla buyers.

EVs will happen without rebates but NOT without a grid to charge them.

Throwing billions into EV rebates makes no financial sense when road systems and the power grids are in a mess and needed serious attention Yesterday.