Chain hooks on Bucket or just use pallet forks? (For misc chain hoisting)

[lowepg]

Its more often my bucket is attached, so I was thinking of adding some bolt on or weld on hooks for using China.

However, I also have pallet forks- and I guess I could also just wrap chains on those….

eh… any pros/cons I’m not considering?

(Mahindra 1640 if that matters for the feedback)

 

[Have tractor did travel]

I have one hook centered on the back of the top lip,, and use it frequently.

If you use the pallet forks 1) you have to get them out and attach; 2) you'll use more chain to wrap the forks, than you would to have the hook grab the chain. Not important ? You'll be amazed at how frequently you're at the end of the chain to just manage to get it into that hook; 3) if you use pallet forks, the weight of whatever you're hoisting will be further from the pins than if you use the hook; 4) you won't bang your head on the hook - not so with the forks. They'll get you sometime.
If you use the hook, be sure to get one large enough to accept the thickness of chain you'll be using (I use 1/4"), AT THE WELD POINT. If you fail to do that, when you slip the link into the hook, if you slip the weld in first, you'll have to hammer it out.

 

[jeff9366]

Chain grab hooks attach to the FEL bucket, not the FEL.
Two bolt on chain grab hooks from the premium supplier, Dan's Bolt On Hooks, cost around $30. SPLURGE.

However, I also have pallet forks- and I guess I could also just wrap chains on those….

"Wrapping" is not a good idea. However most chains used with tractors have a slip hook on one end and a chain grab hook on the other end. So you could use the chain slip hooks to create a tight, noose.

I cannot immediately think of a situation where Pallet Forks would not obviate the need for bucket chain grab hooks.

 

[JCoastie]

I had hooks welded on my bucket in-line with the SSQA attachment point for strength.
I use the hooks quite often.
I do wish I went with bolt on instead weld on.

 

[4570Man]

It’s a pain to hook a chain back on itself and make it shorter than half its length. With a hook you can hook it anywhere. It’s worth the effort to mount one IMO.

 

[etpm]

It’s a pain to hook a chain back on itself and make it shorter than half its length. With a hook you can hook it anywhere. It’s worth the effort to mount one IMO.

On my bucket I have two slip hooks, one at either end, and a grip hook or whatever they are called in the center. They all get used. I am even thinking about adding a grip hook on each end to compliment the slip hooks, I just don't know where I would put them so that they don't interfere with the slip hooks.
Eric

 

[WranglerX]

Hooks or chain slots on bucket are most useful thing I did to grab/hold/lift things...

The chain slots were just fabricated from some 2 X 2 X 1/4 inch angle iron... The shackle eye was from same angle iron just welded back to back...

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[etpm]

Hooks or chain slots on bucket are most useful thing I did to grab/hold/lift things...

The chain slots were just fabricated from some 2 X 2 X 1/4 inch angle iron... The shackle eye was from same angle iron just welded back to back...

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I really like your chain slots. I might just use those instead of hooks at the ends of my bucket instead of the hooks I was planning to use.
Eric

 

[jyoutz]

I had hooks welded on my bucket in-line with the SSQA attachment point for strength.
I use the hooks quite often.
I do wish I went with bolt on instead weld on.

I welded the hooks to a piece of angle iron as long as the bucket lip. Then I bolts the angle iron to the bucket lip. I worked great and strengthens the bucket lip.

 

[Mrsig]

I went with bolt on hooks and that works great for me.

 

[RoyJackson]

I have both hooks (3 of them) on the bucket as well as pallet forks. For most of my lifting, I use the chain hooks...most recent was pulling old split rail fence posts out of the ground.
If you can afford pallet forks, and have a need for them...a worthwhile purchase. But, in my experience, I use the hooks on the bucket considerably more often.
Placement of the hooks is something to consider. I wrote I have three...two in line with the loader arms for heavier lifting or pulling. The other is welded on the centerline of the bucket for lighter work

If you really need to pull (verses lift) something, it's safer to use drawbar below the PTO.

 

[Oaktree]

Placement of the hooks is something to consider. I wrote I have three...two in line with the loader arms for heavier lifting of pulling. The other is welded on the centerline of the bucket for lighter work

Same here, some combination of the 3 always works out for whatever I need to do.

Don't have pallet forks, not sure I'd use them enough to justify the cost, just one more thing to always be in the way when they're not on the tractor.

I do wish I went with bolt on instead weld on.

Curiously, why? Can't think of any reason I'd want to remove them.

 

[CoyPatton]

It’s a pain to hook a chain back on itself and make it shorter than half its length. With a hook you can hook it anywhere. It’s worth the effort to mount one IMO.

Chain shorteners are easily made. Buy 2 grab hooks that match your chain size, put a short length of chain between then (I typically do 2 or 3, keeps it short). You can now hook the chain to itself at any length you wish by grabbing the chain link you want. Your chain could be as short as 6” or so and have a 20’ + long chain.

 

[WranglerX]

Chain shorteners are easily made. Buy 2 grab hooks that match your chain size, put a short length of chain between then (I typically do 2 or 3, keeps it short). You can now hook the chain to itself at any length you wish by grabbing the chain link you want. Your chain could be as short as 6” or so and have a 20’ + long chain.

YEs easily made from a few links of chain and hardware store hooks.... I made mine on cheap instead of paying outrageous online price...

 

[4570Man]

Chain shorteners are easily made. Buy 2 grab hooks that match your chain size, put a short length of chain between then (I typically do 2 or 3, keeps it short). You can now hook the chain to itself at any length you wish by grabbing the chain link you want. Your chain could be as short as 6” or so and have a 20’ + long chain.

Why would you do that vs welding a grab hook on the bucket.

 

[lowepg]

Ok, sorry for a dumb question, but I might use this project as an excuse to get a small welder. Is this a decent application for stick welding? I ask as Ive seen some mention of stick being less than ideal for thinner material…. Not sure if the bucket “lip” qualified as thinner

 

[bdhsfz6]

I use both the forks and bucket chain hooks to lift. I find I can lift close to 100# more with a chain wrapped around the tines. The lift point is a few inches closer to the pivot point when using the forks.

 

[ljjhouser]

I use two Bolt On hooks on the top edge of the bucket. I don't really see any difference between bolt on or welded. I just didn't want to paint on a new tractor when I did it.

 

[WranglerX]

Ok, sorry for a dumb question, but I might use this project as an excuse to get a small welder. Is this a decent application for stick welding? I ask as Ive seen some mention of stick being less than ideal for thinner material…. Not sure if the bucket “lip” qualified as thinner

IF you are considering venturing into welding may I suggest you look into MIG... Its easiest to learn and just as effective as Stick...

I have Hobart Handle 140 (120Volt AC machine) and it can do up to 1/4 inch material quite well.... IF you are considering learning to weld a good introduction to various weld type can be found here...

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[Buggs67]

When I bought my tractor I had the dealer weld 2 hooks in line with the lift arms; 3/8 chain grabber hooks. Recently I saw weld on hook at my Kioti dealer. About $4.50 each, and now that I have a welder (Titanium 125A inverter flux core wire) I welded two more on more towards the center. I also welded hooks on the back of my backhoe so I can easily use it as a small crane.