dodge man
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Trespassing is trespassing, just because the property isn’t being “guarded” doesn’t give people the right to go on it. I am a land surveyor an I see problems occur when people don’t respect boundaries.
Was it "OnX Hunt"? That's a good program. I'm not a hunter, but use it all the time. Several real estate agents in my area use it as well. You need to go to the paid version to get the property boundaries. If I recall, a single state runs $30/year.Oh, and I've found some phone app.... "hunt-Stand" or something like that. So it clearly shows this is private land. (the partnership is the owner) it also gives you the approximate property lines.
Just discovered this program last night.
Maybe the current owner will sell it to you, so you can legally walk your dog there.There's a 50 acre tract next to mine. The closest to contact I've had with the landowner was when the power company wanted to bring power in for my neighbor and I, and they asked permission to put a guy wire on their land. The out of state landowner said "There's no reason to put power down that road."
I've owned this place for 20 years and lived here for 18, yet have NEVER seen anybody there. It's just a vacant piece of timberland which they apparently bought as an investment. What harm does it do if I take my shotgun and dog for a walk to see if we can scare up a bird?
I appreciated that when visiting relatives in Sweden and a friend in Norway.Hmm, very different from my land with right to roam is the law
Unfortunately, my dog will take care of that.The deer remains wouldnt bother me. Nature will take care of that.
Here the right to roam law might be over 1000 years old,as far as i know it was mentioned in laws fro around 1200 but probably much older, whit out it you couldn't travel anywhere in the land.
Most interesting. Around here a government law does not give anybody the right to "roam" on private property. With the ability to "roam" anywhere on private property - like it was public land - property taxes must be very low. This is very close to adverse possession -by the government.
So you abandon your land for 100 years. I go hunt it without permission, fall out of a tree stand, break my leg. I can sue you to pay for my medical and I will probably win, EVEN THOUGH I WAS TRESPASSING.You're misunderstanding me. If I semi-abandon my property for damn near 30 years like the OP, then hell yes, you can come hunt in my woods, because it harms no one. I will never even know. I would argue that this is in fact normal behavoir because it happens everywhere. all the time. Normal humans are doing this constantly.
If I am active and aware of my property, and have it posted and well marked, then that would be ridiculous. Do you see the distinction?
I sure do. I would not violate your property rights in any way, personally. But it also sounds like you would monitor, control access, and post your property appropriately to prevent any misunderstandings. Which solves this whole problem here.No. What I see is the fact that it is not my property, I have no permission to be there and in fact am violating the law being there. You realize that we pass laws saying x is illegal because as a society that is behavior we expect people not to engage in right? Its my property. If I want it to sit vacant that is my right. It is not your right to determine some accepable period of time has elapsed that you have not noticed me using it and decide to you use it yourself.
It is MY property, not yours... do you see the distinction?
Well I hope we agree that any court and jury who rules in favor of a trespassers own fault is plainly wrong. When I first got my piece of land, I read up here and other places about the concept of an "attractive nuisance", and how you have liability for it. I had a dirt bike trail cutting through my property, and the thought of a bike crash and lawsuit did cross my mind. I made a log fence across the trail, which someone then chainsawed and tossed aside. Meh, I tried. Wasn't going to lose sleep over it.So you abandon your land for 100 years. I go hunt it without permission, fall out of a tree stand, break my leg. I can sue you to pay for my medical and I will probably win, EVEN THOUGH I WAS TRESPASSING.
This is why you should post your land and keep any trespassers at bay.
If I didn’t live here, or if my tract was larger then I wouldn’t have a problem with respectful use. Now please answer my question, which you ignored when quoting me.ok what is the time limit? 18 years? 17? 3 months? Can I just come wander your property whenever I want?